Maduro Fuente Fuente opus x and opus sharks?

Hi Jay, are you willing to post the name of the shop since drew newman himself stated these were fakes? I mean he is the highest authority on opus and if he declared them fakes then IMO this vendor needs outed. I think alot of botls here would benefit by knowing who this slimy shop is.

as i posted earlier if a mod clears it then i will post it. none have spoken and i'm sure at least one of them has read this.

Originally Posted by barbourjay

as i posted earlier if a mod clears it then i will post it. none have spoken and i'm sure at least one of them has read this.

no problem and I completely understand. I feel that it could save guys here potential trouble but will defer to the mods on this one. at least you got a conclusive answer though on the cigars

mods can we please get a yea or nay on posting the name/address of this confirmed seller of fake HTFs?

[68TriShield]

Originally Posted by Only Fuentes

no problem and I completely understand. I feel that it could save guys here potential trouble but will defer to the mods on this one. at least you got a conclusive answer though on the cigars

mods can we please get a yea or nay on posting the name/address of this confirmed seller of fake HTFs?

It will be discussed somewhere along the line today.Until then,keeping it to PM is perfectly okay Jeremy.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by 68TriShield

It will be discussed somewhere along the line today.Until then,keeping it to PM is perfectly okay Jeremy.

bump

[landhoney]

Originally Posted by pnoon

bump

bump yourself, you're one of the ones making the decision....or did someone forget.


just having fun Peter, everybody knows you're the awesomeness.

to stop most of the PM's about this, if you only shop in tampa you are fine. this shop isn't in tampa. that still leaves about 50 b&m shops in the area to guess from. if you are from the area i will talk to you about this over PM if need be until instructed further.

i for one will not frequent this dealers stores. i feel that anyone from this area should do the same.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by landhoney

bump yourself, you're one of the ones making the decision....or did someone forget.


just having fun Peter, everybody knows you're the awesomeness.

No offense taken, Seth. Just wanted to remind everyone that we are discussing it. Practically speaking, it may take a day or two to have more than one or two admins chime in and discuss different sides (perspectives).

For now, Jeremy can decide who he wants to answer via PM.

It's all good (except for the fakes )

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by barbourjay

as i posted earlier if a mod clears it then i will post it. none have spoken and i'm sure at least one of them has read this.

Come on, "you can do it".
Man I love this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wbSBxTLe40

[sjnovakovich]

Pardon my harshness here, but this whole thread reminds me of a bunch of sorority chicks gossiping about who was under the bleachers with whom. This dealer needs to be outed in order to protect others. Let's go mods. Release the name! Just my

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by sjnovakovich

Pardon my harshness here, but this whole thread reminds me of a bunch of sorority chicks gossiping about who was under the bleachers with whom. This dealer needs to be outed in order to protect others. Let's go mods. Release the name! Just my

If it were that simple of a decision, it would have been made immediately. There is more to it than just this issue. It can/will have an impact on how things are handled in the future. Decisions like this are not taken lightly by the TOE. Besides, it is as much an issue for Jeremy to decide if/who he shares it with. We're just deciding if it should be something posted publicly.


I think there is a paralell here with purchasing Habanos. Trust your vendor. Should you really be buying uber premium cigars from a retailer you don't know/trust or haven't been referred to by someone you do trust?

Just my

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by pnoon

If it were that simple of a decision, it would have been made immediately. There is more to it than just this issue. It can/will have an impact on how things are handled in the future. Decisions like this are not taken lightly by the TOE.

Not to mention that similar "outings" have caused Mob mentalities in sites I have moderated in the past, and sometimes it was found that the OP was the mistaken one, while the retailer was taken to task for something they were falsely accused of (not saying that is the case here at all).

Originally Posted by icehog3

Not to mention that similar "outings" have caused Mob mentalities in sites I have moderated in the past, and sometimes it was found that the OP was the mistaken one, while the retailer was taken to task for something they were falsely accused of (not saying that is the case here at all).

I can see how the mob mentality could take over. But it appears as if Jay posted this on multiple forums and has said that Drew Newman himself declared them fakes. Also it seems that a larger than normal amount of maduro opus have been for sale on ebay. This confirmed retailer of fakes could easily sell a fake on ebay and nobody would be any wiser as they sure looked real to me!! Jay has said he'd ge glad to post the name and address of this shop which could at least be a small victory for opus lovers. I mean if I was sold fake opus and had Drew or similar declaring them as such then I would have no hesitation to out the retailer.

Negative feedback is just as important as positive feedback. I mean heck, there are some GREAT retailers here who helped me get some opus at great pricing (including Jay himself). I think this is simply a matter of protecting our own. Then again my opinion is worth about