The Wine Thread

rizzle · 11-14-2008, 11:51 AM

Awesome thread. I'm hoping to learn a little bit over time, similar to my cigar journey.

I typically prefer reds and my wife has been a Chardonnay only drinker for years. I've recently been able to get her to join me in a glass of red, don't know if it is due to her pregnancy or what, but I'm not complaining.

We had a friend turn us on to Bogle Phantom recently and we've really been enjoying it. Its a mix of 55% Petite Sirah, 42% Zinfandel, and 3% Mourvedre.
About $18 or so a bottle. Maybe not a classic--don't know, don't care. But we like it. And it is a red that I can enjoy with my wife. That alone makes it good to me.

Any of you guys had that one?

aldukes · 11-14-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzle

Maybe not a classic--don't know, don't care. But we like it.

Thats all that matters.

Just dont drink yellow tail

SmokinApe · 11-14-2008, 03:56 PM

what's the deal with yellow tail?

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Originally Posted by aldukes

Thats all that matters.

Just dont drink yellow tail

11-14-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe

what's the deal with yellow tail?

Nuff Said

~Vitis

SmokinApe · 11-14-2008, 07:06 PM

Doesn't it get positive reviews? People recommend it all the time...

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Nuff Said

~Vitis

11-14-2008, 11:31 PM

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Doesn't it get positive reviews? People recommend it all the time...

I have tried it a few times and always find it very sweet while red wine is usualy fermented dry. Made for the coca cola crowd. I think you can find a lot better and more interesting wine for the $$ or a few $$ more. On the other hand, taste is subjective and you should always drink what you like.

~Vitis

SmokinApe · 11-15-2008, 10:50 AM

Thanks for the perspective....

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Originally Posted by Vitis

I have tried it a few times and always find it very sweet while red wine is usualy fermented dry. Made for the coca cola crowd. I think you can find a lot better and more interesting wine for the $$ or a few $$ more. On the other hand, taste is subjective and you should always drink what you like.

~Vitis

aldukes · 11-15-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitis

I have tried it a few times and always find it very sweet while red wine is usualy fermented dry. Made for the coca cola crowd. I think you can find a lot better and more interesting wine for the $$ or a few $$ more. On the other hand, taste is subjective and you should always drink what you like.

~Vitis

well put.

Mark C · 11-16-2008, 06:41 AM

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Doesn't it [yellowtail] get positive reviews? People recommend it all the time...

I recommend it all the time to people who think they don't like wine. I find it's an easy introduction to wine and have never found anyone who 'doesn't like wine' who didn't enjoy Yellowtail. And that opens the door to everything else.

My theory is a lot of people are hesitant to try wine for mental reasons, rather than taste, and Yellowtail helps them to think 'hey, not all wine is bad, maybe I should try some more'.

I think the Macanudo reference is a good one. Yellowtail ain't a great wine, but it ain't a bad wine. Same with Mac, it ain't a great cigar, but it ain't bad either. It's not very interesting, but it may get a person started down the slope.

I still think Yellowtail is fairly representative of New World Shiraz, but I'll admit I haven't tried many. For those of you who hate Yellowtail, can you give me a few ideas of other New World Shiraz that you DO like? I need to restock my wine fridge anyway and I'd love some advice.

mosesbotbol · 11-16-2008, 08:51 AM

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For those of you who hate Yellowtail, can you give me a few ideas of other New World Shiraz that you DO like? I need to restock my wine fridge anyway and I'd love some advice.

Torbreck "Woodcutters" Shiraz Barossa Valley is an excellent choice for under $20. They also make other Shiraz at different price points up to $150+.

mosesbotbol · 11-14-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rizzle

I typically prefer reds and my wife has been a Chardonnay only drinker for years. I've recently been able to get her to join me in a glass of red, don't know if it is due to her pregnancy or what, but I'm not complaining.

Try the 2005 Louis Jadot Burgundy. It's around $12 a bottle and you both may enjoy that one. Serve it very slightly chilled.

rizzle · 11-14-2008, 02:00 PM

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Try the 2005 Louis Jadot Burgundy. It's around $12 a bottle and you both may enjoy that one. Serve it very slightly chilled.

Will do. Thanks moses.

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Rockestone · 11-14-2008, 02:21 PM

My favorite wine at the moment is the Estancia Merlot. Affordable and absolutely drinkable!!

rizzle · 11-28-2008, 08:44 AM

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Try the 2005 Louis Jadot Burgundy. It's around $12 a bottle and you both may enjoy that one. Serve it very slightly chilled.

moses, this one?

mosesbotbol · 11-28-2008, 09:19 AM

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moses, this one?

Yes, that looks like it. Make sure to let it breathe for a couple of hours if possible.

rizzle · 11-28-2008, 10:21 AM

Thanks brother.

11-14-2008, 11:51 AM	#1
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: The Wine Thread Awesome thread. I'm hoping to learn a little bit over time, similar to my cigar journey. I typically prefer reds and my wife has been a Chardonnay only drinker for years. I've recently been able to get her to join me in a glass of red, don't know if it is due to her pregnancy or what, but I'm not complaining. We had a friend turn us on to Bogle Phantom recently and we've really been enjoying it. Its a mix of 55% Petite Sirah, 42% Zinfandel, and 3% Mourvedre. About $18 or so a bottle. Maybe not a classic--don't know, don't care. But we like it. And it is a red that I can enjoy with my wife. That alone makes it good to me. Any of you guys had that one?

11-14-2008, 02:21 PM	#13
Rockestone Anythings Possible Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Anderson, SC Posts: 793 Trading: (5)	Re: The Wine Thread My favorite wine at the moment is the Estancia Merlot. Affordable and absolutely drinkable!! __________________

11-28-2008, 10:21 AM	#16
rizzle Order Restored Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: st pete, fl Posts: 2,679 Trading: (23)	Re: The Wine Thread Thanks brother.