WTF is happening to our kids?????

[Volt]

I teach in both middle and high schools. You are only touching the tip of the iceberg.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Volt

I teach in both middle and high schools. You are only touching the tip of the iceberg.

I didn't know that you were a teacher. I teach 9th grade English and see some kids who are very sadistic. I would say that the world is getting worse, but despite all the bad publicity, we are the most educated society in the world today.

Originally Posted by andysutherland

I didn't know that you were a teacher. I teach 9th grade English and see some kids who are very sadistic. I would say that the world is getting worse, but despite all the bad publicity, we are the most educated society in the world today.

No offense but this statement is not a true one. We are not the most educated society by far and America actually ranks fairly low in the world when it comes to intelligence and schooling.

Originally Posted by coastietech

No offense but this statement is not a true one. We are not the most educated society by far and America actually ranks fairly low in the world when it comes to intelligence and schooling.

Joe, the truth of the matter is that we are ranked low in "SCHOOLING" but I doubt you would find any data to prove "INTELLIGENCE" was low in the US of A. We have a society that includes all peoples and our melting pot might not hit high on the metrics that the Europeans use to determine schooling rankings, but the US is in the forefront of virtually all scientific research and that is not due to our schooling but our country values intelligence unlike many others.

I am not trying to say that "RAH RAH USA" we are the best at these matters, but we get a bad name because the people giving the rankings choose how to rank...

[Skywalker]

One of Shawn's points needs to be explored a little more...
Yes. Many of us, as children, played violent role playing (dramatic play) with our friends and siblings, such as cowboys and Indians, or war play. This gave us opportunities to hurt others and be hurt with limitations. That’s what play is for... it allows grown up behavior in a safe environment. I don't see children playing like this anymore. Parents are afraid to let their children play in the neighborhood, so the children play video games and watch TV and movies. They have very little positive social interaction.

When you were playing with your friends and things began to get a little rough, you let them know it and they let up. I obtained plenty of bumps and bruises from my best friends and they received a few in turn. That's how we learned restraint. You don't learn restraint from TV or video games, on the contrary; you learn to destroy without restraint!

Originally Posted by DougBushBC

Joe, the truth of the matter is that we are ranked low in "SCHOOLING" but I doubt you would find any data to prove "INTELLIGENCE" was low in the US of A. We have a society that includes all peoples and our melting pot might not hit high on the metrics that the Europeans use to determine schooling rankings, but the US is in the forefront of virtually all scientific research and that is not due to our schooling but our country values intelligence unlike many others.

I am not trying to say that "RAH RAH USA" we are the best at these matters, but we get a bad name because the people giving the rankings choose how to rank...

I wasn't trying to be anti-American I was simply stating a fact. Typically the data most people go by on this subject is UNICEF. They really don't have any reason to be biased.

We basically agree though. America ranks very low when it comes to schooling. I will agree that America leads the world in almost all areas in the medical field, and quite a few other fields. That has more to do with our capitalistic society and the fact that there is more money to be made here than anywhere else with said innovations.

Originally Posted by coastietech

I wasn't trying to be anti-American I was simply stating a fact. Typically the data most people go by on this subject is UNICEF. They really don't have any reason to be biased.

I call BULLSHIT on their lack of bias.

Originally Posted by DougBushBC

I call BULLSHIT on their lack of bias.

Care to provide some form of evidence of this?

UNICEF really has nothing to gain by saying that one country has better schooling than another, especially when they put the US rankings so low and we provide the most volunteers and money to the program.

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by coastietech

I wasn't trying to be anti-American I was simply stating a fact. Typically the data most people go by on this subject is UNICEF. They really don't have any reason to be biased.

We basically agree though. America ranks very low when it comes to schooling. I will agree that America leads the world in almost all areas in the medical field, and quite a few other fields. That has more to do with our capitalistic society and the fact that there is more money to be made here than anywhere else with said innovations.

I work at a "Harvard Teaching Hospital" research facility and we have researchers from all over the world, and I've met some STOOPID people with advanced degrees. You would not believe the things that people think are true. Do you think that Americans have cornered the market on conspiracy theories and other nonsense, not by a long shot! Many of these people, while very good at their jobs, can't find their buts with both hands and a GPS unit. Of course, YMMV.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

I work at a "Harvard Teaching Hospital" research facility and we have researchers from all over the world, and I've met some STOOPID people with advanced degrees. You would not believe the things that people think are true. Do you think that Americans have cornered the market on conspiracy theories and other nonsense, not by a long shot! Many of these people, while very good at their jobs, can't find their buts with both hands and a GPS unit. Of course, YMMV.

People who have advanced degrees are typically knowledgable in one specialized subject. I hope to one day hold a doctorate in English. If I do get my PhD in English, it will never make me a math whiz. I also know many, many teachers and educators who know nothing of the world, but they know an awful lot about how to educate children. Holding an advanced degree does not make you knowledgable about all things in the world.

[Starscream]

Originally Posted by coastietech

No offense but this statement is not a true one. We are not the most educated society by far and America actually ranks fairly low in the world when it comes to intelligence and schooling.

I meant the world as a whole, not America. I misworded my previous post. The world is more educated than it ever has been at this moment.

Originally Posted by andysutherland

I meant the world as a whole, not America. I misworded my previous post. The world is more educated than it ever has been at this moment.

I definitely agree with that statement.