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Old 11-02-2009, 11:31 AM   #1
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Default Re: Altadis USA sues Tatuaje Cigars

Just realized, while many of us don't touch Altadis USA stuff, on paper, they are the same Altadis that has part of the Habanos.
So, every time we light one of those CC's, back to Altadis it goes.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:34 AM   #2
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Just realized, while many of us don't touch Altadis USA stuff, on paper, they are the same Altadis that has part of the Habanos.
So, every time we light one of those CC's, back to Altadis it goes.
Indeed. They also own most of JR Cigars at this point, so every time you order from them back to Altadis it goes.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:35 AM   #3
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Considering that the history of Altadis goes as far back as 1918...Tatuaje goes back all of 6 years....



For those of you who wish Altadis to fail, maybe you want to re-think your words??
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Just realized, while many of us don't touch Altadis USA stuff, on paper, they are the same Altadis that has part of the Habanos.
So, every time we light one of those CC's, back to Altadis it goes.

I'm pretty sure Altadis USA and Altadis SA are completely sepperate companies. That's not to say that don't back channel money back and forth illegally if they are controlled by the same people, but I'm pretty sure the IRS would want to know, and not even sure they are controlled by the same people.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:44 AM   #4
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I'm pretty sure Altadis USA and Altadis SA are completely sepperate companies. That's not to say that don't back channel money back and forth illegally if they are controlled by the same people, but I'm pretty sure the IRS would want to know, and not even sure they are controlled by the same people.
I am sure they are two seperate companies and they would work as independent companies, seperate books, different corporate registrations...
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:45 AM   #5
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I'm pretty sure Altadis USA and Altadis SA are completely sepperate companies. That's not to say that don't back channel money back and forth illegally if they are controlled by the same people, but I'm pretty sure the IRS would want to know, and not even sure they are controlled by the same people.
They are the same company but different divisions.

http://www.answers.com/topic/altadis-u-s-a-inc

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Created from the 2000 consolidation of HavaTampa Inc. and Consolidated Cigar Holdings, Altadis USA is a leading cigar maker nationwide that generates more than half of its parent Altadis, S.A.'s worldwide cigar sales.
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In December 1999, Consolidated Cigar Corporation / SEITA entered into an agreement with Spanish tobacco giant Tabacalera S.A. This new tobacco company was named ALTADIS, S.A. ALTADIS stands for Alliance Tobacco Distribution. As a result of this merger, Hav-A-Tampa was brought into the fold and new facilities were added. The new enterprise became the world's largest cigar company with over 7,000 employees worldwide. In September 2000, the parent company purchased 50% of Habanos S.A., owner of most of the Cuban trademarks in the world and franchiser of the Casa del Habano shops. The final merger, resulting in today's company, was completed in early 2008 when Altadis S.A. merged with Imperial Tobacco, headquartered in the UK.
http://www.altadisusa.com/company.asp

An Altadis Rep told me several months back that when Pete heard about them suing him, he rasied a glass at a dinner and announced that Altadis is suing him so now he knows that he had arrived.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:40 PM   #6
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..when Pete heard about them suing him, he rasied a glass at a dinner and announced that Altadis is suing him so now he knows that he had arrived.
So when I make a Kit car with the Ferrari Stallion on it and get sued by Ferrari, I can claim ""I have arrived"??

Do ANY of you posting the smartass comments have an inkling of the number of companies sued or shut down by Fuente due to the "Opus" or the "X"??

Maybe even the history of the Original Release Famous Nicaraguan 3000???
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:44 PM   #7
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So when I make a Kit car with the Ferrari Stallion on it and get sued by Ferrari, I can claim ""I have arrived"??
If you make it better and mass produce it for sale, sure.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:59 PM   #8
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If you make it better and mass produce it for sale, sure.
Exactly what I am guessing Pete's point was....he got noticed by Altadis.

Hope this isn't considered to be a "smartass comment".
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:07 PM   #9
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So when I make a Kit car with the Ferrari Stallion on it and get sued by Ferrari, I can claim ""I have arrived"??
Your really comparing the two?

Pete never made an imitation Montecristo.... His cigar label looks nothing like a Montecristo label. So what Pete did and what you are suggesting aren't comparable. If Pete did what you were talking about there would be a substantial lawsuit. He would have been purposely trying to confuse the consumer into thinking his product was something else.

I've noticed your dislike for all things Pete Johnson spill over in more than one thread. So much so that you defend things that are ridiculous just so you can not show any support for him.
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:58 PM   #10
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Millions of ideas and emblems to use out there.....and he comes up with a Fleur de Lis, an image that has been part of the Montecristo emblem for over 70 years.

That's not a coincidence.

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tatuaje sucks, altadis sucks, the browns suck.... this thread sucks
Now I gotta clean Guinness off my keyboard!!!!

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Old 11-02-2009, 07:20 PM   #11
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Millions of ideas and emblems to use out there.....and he comes up with a Fleur de Lis, an image that has been part of the Montecristo emblem for over 70 years.

That's not a coincidence.



Now I gotta clean Guinness off my keyboard!!!!




IS that a record??? lol!!
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:16 PM   #12
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I've noticed your dislike for all things Pete Johnson spill over in more than one thread. So much so that you defend things that are ridiculous just so you can not show any support for him.
Umm....Coastie???

Search: Keyword(s): drac - Showing results 1 to 25 of 61

61 different threads mention the Drac. SIXTY ONE THREADS.

Search: Keyword(s): tatuaje ; Posts Made By: tobii3

Results 1 to 8 of 8

Search: Keyword(s): drac ; Posts Made By: tobii3

Results 1 to 9 of 9

Wow. 4 of those posts are on THIS thread. Never knew a comment I made about the P series not being economy priced was a dislike of Pete Johnson. Come to think of it, the posts on the Tat Drac: Shipping Date thread were defending a retailer accused of gouging.

I was going to put this in PM, but the more I think about it, the more it should be kept out in public.

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