Pete Johnson goes Vampire!

[s15driftking]

Originally Posted by coastietech

A little leg work and they can be found and purchased.

Bro, this is totally after-the-fact....

and if you still persist... then answer me three questions...

1. Do you agree with Pete's allowance of shop owners/workers to win the ducati because they opened all the boxes prior?

2. Do you agree with Pete's allowance of the Local B&M's allowance to sell them online and ruin, RUIN the excitement of the "locallized" luckiness of having a nearby B&M that got the first initial shipment?

3. Do you agree with Pete's allowance/tolerance for B&M's charging more than the afforementioned 13.00 per-stick pricetag that was publicly announced before theyshipped?


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I don't own Tatuaje, so i cannot control these things, I don't own one of the shops that sells them so I cannot control those things as well.

But what I can control is my continuation of purchasing a product that lacks integrity and class.... And I don't associate with those people...



......unless I'm in Vegas

I'm confused by one thing that hopefully someone with a more advanced business degree than my measly BA can answer: why such a fuss about stores charging X over MSRP for a product?

I've worked two retail jobs and have never heard of a manufacturer berating a retailer for selling their product OVER MSRP.

[s15driftking]

Originally Posted by Slavac

I'm confused by one thing that hopefully someone with a more advanced business degree than my measly BA can answer: why such a fuss about stores charging X over MSRP for a product?

I've worked two retail jobs and have never heard of a manufacturer berating a retailer for selling their product OVER MSRP.

In a Niche-like special event situation (this being halloween) like a "monster series" it looks bad if your 13.00 dollar cigar sells for more than 13.00 dollars considering the number 13 is used repeatedly in trends of the event.... Kinda ruins it you know?

Originally Posted by s15driftking

In a Niche-like special event situation (this being halloween) like a "monster series" it looks bad if your 13.00 dollar cigar sells for more than 13.00 dollars considering the number 13 is used repeatedly in trends of the event.... Kinda ruins it you know?

I get the cuteness of releasing 13xxx boxes to 13 stores while he had 13 pennies in his left pocket while wearing only one size 13 shoe while walking down 31st street (he had dyslexia ) but I don't think it's a matter of contention.

Capitalism being what it is, stores are as free to raise their prices however far they want as you are similarly free to shop at other venues. All this talk of price gouging is just absurd.

Originally Posted by s15driftking

Bro, this is totally after-the-fact....

and if you still persist... then answer me three questions...

1. Do you agree with Pete's allowance of shop owners/workers to win the ducati because they opened all the boxes prior?

2. Do you agree with Pete's allowance of the Local B&M's allowance to sell them online and ruin, RUIN the excitement of the "locallized" luckiness of having a nearby B&M that got the first initial shipment?

3. Do you agree with Pete's allowance/tolerance for B&M's charging more than the afforementioned 13.00 per-stick pricetag that was publicly announced before theyshipped?


_______________________

I don't own Tatuaje, so i cannot control these things, I don't own one of the shops that sells them so I cannot control those things as well.

But what I can control is my continuation of purchasing a product that lacks integrity and class.... And I don't associate with those people...



......unless I'm in Vegas

Bro your talking to the wrong person. I enjoy LE... I pretty much go after any LE item that falls into my hobby that I can. I go out of my way to buy LE and C&R guns because it's stuff that few other people have.

The only reason I have an issue with B&M being eligible for the Ducati is because it means they will open up all the boxes. Should I plan on collecting them it diminishes the value to have the seal on the box already broken. I've already spoken to my B&M and requested a sealed box and had no problem getting him to agree to that.

For you to call someone classless and say they lack integrity because they are able to create a hype about their product and whine because you can't find a box is not only childish but pretty ignorant.

As for the MSRP, every product in the world has an MSRP and it's just that a "suggest price." Doesn't mean it has to be sold at that price. Hell many factors come in to play. A B&M in NY has a much higher tax and much higher rent than a B&M in FL so they have to charge more.

You pay to play, it's that simple. Stop whining. If you don't want it don't buy it. If you do then do the leg work find a box and pay the price.

Funny how people look at cigars differently than they do every other product out there. I don't see anyone on the board complaining about LE cars, guns, guitars, or any other LE product. Ask any musician on this board who collects an instrument what they would do for a LE. Ask a surfer who collects boards what he would do for a LE board. People collect thing and LE makes the collector enjoy the hobby. If you don't like it buy the regular production stuff and stop whining.

This is ridiculous!!

[Hendy]

Originally Posted by coastietech

Bro your talking to the wrong person. I enjoy LE... I pretty much go after any LE item that falls into my hobby that I can. I go out of my way to buy LE and C&R guns because it's stuff that few other people have.

The only reason I have an issue with B&M being eligible for the Ducati is because it means they will open up all the boxes. Should I plan on collecting them it diminishes the value to have the seal on the box already broken. I've already spoken to my B&M and requested a sealed box and had no problem getting him to agree to that.

For you to call someone classless and say they lack integrity because they are able to create a hype about their product and whine because you can't find a box is not only childish but pretty ignorant.

As for the MSRP, every product in the world has an MSRP and it's just that a "suggest price." Doesn't mean it has to be sold at that price. Hell many factors come in to play. A B&M in NY has a much higher tax and much higher rent than a B&M in FL so they have to charge more.

You pay to play, it's that simple. Stop whining. If you don't want it don't buy it. If you do then do the leg work find a box and pay the price.

Funny how people look at cigars differently than they do every other product out there. I don't see anyone on the board complaining about LE cars, guns, guitars, or any other LE product. Ask any musician on this board who collects an instrument what they would do for a LE. Ask a surfer who collects boards what he would do for a LE board. People collect thing and LE makes the collector enjoy the hobby. If you don't like it buy the regular production stuff and stop whining.

This is ridiculous!!

I have to agree with you bro. I was pretty scorned when I could not get a box. And I know Pete personally. But, at the end of the day, LE's in any form are what they are. It's up to you if you want them or not. Price becomes mute at that point.

[s15driftking]

Originally Posted by coastietech

Bro your talking to the wrong person. I enjoy LE... I pretty much go after any LE item that falls into my hobby that I can. I go out of my way to buy LE and C&R guns because it's stuff that few other people have.

The only reason I have an issue with B&M being eligible for the Ducati is because it means they will open up all the boxes. Should I plan on collecting them it diminishes the value to have the seal on the box already broken. I've already spoken to my B&M and requested a sealed box and had no problem getting him to agree to that.

For you to call someone classless and say they lack integrity because they are able to create a hype about their product and whine because you can't find a box is not only childish but pretty ignorant.

As for the MSRP, every product in the world has an MSRP and it's just that a "suggest price." Doesn't mean it has to be sold at that price. Hell many factors come in to play. A B&M in NY has a much higher tax and much higher rent than a B&M in FL so they have to charge more.

You pay to play, it's that simple. Stop whining. If you don't want it don't buy it. If you do then do the leg work find a box and pay the price.

Funny how people look at cigars differently than they do every other product out there. I don't see anyone on the board complaining about LE cars, guns, guitars, or any other LE product. Ask any musician on this board who collects an instrument what they would do for a LE. Ask a surfer who collects boards what he would do for a LE board. People collect thing and LE makes the collector enjoy the hobby. If you don't like it buy the regular production stuff and stop whining.

This is ridiculous!!

what?

Originally Posted by s15driftking

what?

Thank you for proving my point.

Originally Posted by coastietech

...Funny how people look at cigars differently than they do every other product out there. I don't see anyone on the board complaining about LE cars, guns, guitars, or any other LE product. Ask any musician on this board who collects an instrument what they would do for a LE. Ask a surfer who collects boards what he would do for a LE board. People collect thing and LE makes the collector enjoy the hobby.

A) Most of us don't "collect" cigars, we smoke them.

B) I've never smoked a car, a gun, guitar or surfboard. Nor do I have ANY inclination to do so.

C) I'm waiting for Pete Johnson to coordinate with Kaizad Hansotia on his next "box".....

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by tobii3

A) Most of us don't "collect" cigars, we smoke them.

Not true.
Most of us collect them long enough to smoke them.

[stearns]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Not true.
Most of us collect them long enough to smoke them.

i collect certain cigars, with knowledge that i probably wont smoke them for years. but i also submit to the "LE" craze, so feel free to disregard my opinion

stearns

[Guitarman-S.T-]

Originally Posted by tobii3

A) Most of us don't "collect" cigars, we smoke them.

B) I've never smoked a car, a gun, guitar or surfboard. Nor do I have ANY inclination to do so.

C) I'm waiting for Pete Johnson to coordinate with on his next "box".....

hahaha ... C> C> C!

[s15driftking]

Originally Posted by tobii3

B) I've never smoked a car, a gun, guitar or surfboard. Nor do I have ANY inclination to do so.

apparently you haven't lived!!!