What's in a Cup of Coffee??

[shilala]

Originally Posted by germantown rob

Those are some mighty condemning words for any one to find on google. Would you mind sighting some sources for such an extreme statement?

Aside from the statement about TripleF, which is pretty self-explanatory, it's mainly rooted in holistic medicine.
It takes an incredible amount of the bodies' resources to work out a cup of coffee, and from the things that were posted earlier, it's easy to see why.
I can go on forever about how the body processes food, and what cells are expended in the process, and how much life coffee saps, but I like coffee.
If one is so inclined, there's tons of info both pro-coffee and anti-coffee. All it takes is a calculator and some biology to put a number to coffee.
It's excruciatingly bad stuff.
I'm gonna go make a pot right now, mainly because I'm stupid, but also because I love it. I do lots of stuff that's not good for me. I like it.

I've been drinking coffee almost every day for the last 34 years. I am in excellent health. Therefore, coffee must be healthy. (j/k)
The bodies resources are very flexible and mostly limited by availability outside. Coffe gives me the energy to get at those outside resources.

[floydpink]

I just read on an internet forum that beer has just been proven to make you smart.

The theory is backed by the fact that it made Bud wiser.

A drug addict replied that if coke is a joke, he can't wait for the next line.

It was also recently discovered that if you mix Viagra with Valium, an adverse reaction may occur where if you don't get a f*** you don't give a f***.

And finally, since smoked meat lasts longer without refrigeration than fresh meat, an internet study recently concluded that all smokers will be living longer if global warming is indeed occuring.

[germantown rob]

Originally Posted by shilala

Aside from the statement about TripleF, which is pretty self-explanatory, it's mainly rooted in holistic medicine.
It takes an incredible amount of the bodies' resources to work out a cup of coffee, and from the things that were posted earlier, it's easy to see why.
I can go on forever about how the body processes food, and what cells are expended in the process, and how much life coffee saps, but I like coffee.
If one is so inclined, there's tons of info both pro-coffee and anti-coffee. All it takes is a calculator and some biology to put a number to coffee.
It's excruciatingly bad stuff.
I'm gonna go make a pot right now, mainly because I'm stupid, but also because I love it. I do lots of stuff that's not good for me. I like it.

So far you are only giving your opinion and not facts or studies. If we stick to opinions then my opinion of you choosing to feel stupid for putting as you say "Coffee is the single worst thing a person can put in their body" is worse for you then drinking the coffee. Where would Methamphetamine fall on this list of what is bad for you? I have known people that in less then a year of Methamphetamine addiction have changed the health of themselves for the rest of their lives. Coffee being the #2 agricultural commodities traded in the world I would expect to see some pretty hard core numbers as to the ill effect of it.

Now out of the 10 things listed (water being one of them and you don't want me to get started on water, lol) there are over 990 other chemicals in coffee most of which have never been analyzed. Yes 22 chemicals in coffee are proven carcinogens that leaves 878 plus chemicals to counteract this. It is very easy to point out what is bad or what is good on its own but far more complicated to prove how all of it combines in the body to work.

Coffee counteracts the ill effects of having too much sex in one night. Proven fact.

[kenstogie]

Originally Posted by BC-Axeman

Coffee counteracts the ill effects of having too much sex in one night. Proven fact.

Wow that's great news! Now I know what to use when that finally happens.

[Gargoyle]

Threadjack alert

It is funny reading about the potential health risks of coffee in a cigar forum. The elephant in the room is the cigar, not the risks of coffee.

We now return you to the previously scheduled program...

[shilala]

Originally Posted by germantown rob

So far you are only giving your opinion and not facts or studies. If we stick to opinions then my opinion of you choosing to feel stupid for putting as you say "Coffee is the single worst thing a person can put in their body" is worse for you then drinking the coffee. Where would Methamphetamine fall on this list of what is bad for you? I have known people that in less then a year of Methamphetamine addiction have changed the health of themselves for the rest of their lives. Coffee being the #2 agricultural commodities traded in the world I would expect to see some pretty hard core numbers as to the ill effect of it.

Now out of the 10 things listed (water being one of them and you don't want me to get started on water, lol) there are over 990 other chemicals in coffee most of which have never been analyzed. Yes 22 chemicals in coffee are proven carcinogens that leaves 878 plus chemicals to counteract this. It is very easy to point out what is bad or what is good on its own but far more complicated to prove how all of it combines in the body to work.

All I can say is "I love coffee.", because I do. I am 100% pro-coffee, pro-cigar, pro-sex, pro-drugs, and pro-rock and roll.
There are inexhaustible sources of information about coffee at your fingertips. I don't expect anyone to take my word for anything. All it takes is a little research to come to one's own conclusion. I've done it, and to date, there's not a single thing that I've found that uses as many of the body's resources to expel than does coffee.

Methamphetamine stays in a person's system for 3 days. Coffee hangs in for 30 or more. I'm not sure how much coffee one would have to drink in order to equal the damage that methamphetamine addiction causes.
It's an interesting argument, though. I don't know anyone who's ever crawled in anyone's windows to steal stuff to buy coffee, so it's not really an "apples to apples" argument. I do see your point, though.

About ten years there was a cancer study done that pitted holistic (herbal) medicine against the current latest and greatest Eastern cancer fighting regimen.
It was very interesting, and ultimately the Tibetan herbal treatments beat the radiological Eastern treatments by a fair margin. There were only about 20 control subjects for each practitioner, and the Tibetan's success rate for total remission was around 70% over the control group, near 100% for those that actually followed his regimen.
The Eastern doctor's numbers were right in the same ballpark, but the Tibetan was able to completely remiss two of the Eastern doctor's patients after he'd failed with them.
Anyways...
Part of the Tibetan's rules were no coffee, no alcohol, and no smoking.
The alcohol and smoking were pretty much no-brainers to me, but I wondered why the "no coffee" rule. His statements were on the line of "it's like black death" to the body.
So I went looking.
As it pertained to western medicine, coffee was so slap full of chemicals that it basically negated the medicine's ability to work. It used an inordinate amount of the body's resources to expel it, and basically took front seat while the cancer moved along unchecked, and it cancelled the natural remedies' ability to stimulate the body's responses to the cancer.
So I dug further into why coffee was so bad.
When I was done, I started drinking Wallenford Estate from Jamaica, because of it's low acidity and specific chemical properties that made it less invasive and more "green" for me.
Then I tried a bunch of other stuff.
Then I started drinking more coffee than ever from all over the world and bought a giant Bunn commercial coffee maker and a new grinder.
Now I pretty much drink Maxwell House half-caff all the time.

I guess the moral of the story is, "Don't do stuff like me, don't take my word for it, go read."
I would love to sit and have a cup of coffee and a cigar with you and talk about this stuff, Rob. My door is always open, and coffee is on 24/7. Literally.