Cuban Merch Illegal?

Footbag · 10-08-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

My thought, and this is by no means an expert opinion, is that if the shirt, ashtray etc. is manufactured in, let's say, China, then there is no violation of the embargo.

Just my interpretation. I could be dead wrong.

Yes, but what about copyright violation?

pnoon · 10-08-2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footbag

Yes, but what about copyright violation?

I have no clue.

boonedoggle · 10-08-2009, 05:18 PM

Everytime I've gone overseas (mostly in 3rd world countries) I've seen blackmarket Nike, Reebok, etc clothes...and just about every other popular "Western" merch. I don't think they give a whole lot of merit to copyright, nor Trademark, if they can make a living doing do.

dinder1 · 10-08-2009, 05:53 PM

I have several Habanos ashtrays, but if you look on the bottom of them they say....
Porcelanos
Bidasoa
Spain
Para
Habanos S.A.

So they are actually made in Spain for Habanos S.A. That is legal enough for me.

Footbag · 10-08-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinder1

I have several Habanos ashtrays, but if you look on the bottom of them they say....
Porcelanos
Bidasoa
Spain
Para
Habanos S.A.

So they are actually made in Spain for Habanos S.A. That is legal enough for me.

You answered my question!

dinder1 · 10-08-2009, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footbag

You answered my question!

Glad I could help.

BroncoHorvath · 10-08-2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinder1

I have several Habanos ashtrays, but if you look on the bottom of them they say....
Porcelanos
Bidasoa
Spain
Para
Habanos S.A.

So they are actually made in Spain for Habanos S.A. That is legal enough for me.

That's the real thing you've got. It's the same ashtray they sell in Cuba...

dinder1 · 10-08-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoHorvath

That's the real thing you've got. It's the same ashtray they sell in Cuba...

Yep, I have three that I purchased about eight years ago.
Habanos 2000
Festival Del Habanos 2000
Cohiba Aniversario 35 1966-2001

I love and use these guys on a daily basis.

10-11-2009, 10:07 PM

Most of the Cuban brands lost US copyrights to either people that left cuba, or to companies in the US looking to get rights in the name. Every time Cuban companies have tried to challenge their copyrights in US courts post Castro, they have lost to noncuban copyright holders.

That's why you see a Cohiba from the DR, as well as a Cohiba from Cuba. The Cohiba from the DR isn't infringing on a copyright in the US if they make cigars, ashtrays with logos, TShirts with logos, etc., b/c they're the ones who actually hold the US copyright (I believe it's General Cigar that owns it), and not the Cuban company.

N2Advnture · 10-08-2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoon

My thought, and this is by no means an expert opinion, is that if the shirt, ashtray etc. is manufactured in, let's say, China, then there is no violation of the embargo.

Just my interpretation. I could be dead wrong.

True

Quote:

Originally Posted by Footbag

Yes, but what about copyright violation?

Yes but by the US company that holds the trademark (General Cigar)

10-08-2009, 05:18 PM	#3
boonedoggle The Search is ON Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jimmy Location: CHARLESTON, SC Posts: 631 Trading: (19)	Re: Cuban Merch Illegal? Everytime I've gone overseas (mostly in 3rd world countries) I've seen blackmarket Nike, Reebok, etc clothes...and just about every other popular "Western" merch. I don't think they give a whole lot of merit to copyright, nor Trademark, if they can make a living doing do. __________________ Dr. Hibbard: Is that the love of a man for a woman, or the love of a man for a fine Cuban cigar? (chuckles

10-08-2009, 05:53 PM	#4
dinder1 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Aug 2009 First Name: Din Location: PDX Posts: 60 Trading: (0)	Re: Cuban Merch Illegal? I have several Habanos ashtrays, but if you look on the bottom of them they say.... Porcelanos Bidasoa Spain Para Habanos S.A. So they are actually made in Spain for Habanos S.A. That is legal enough for me.

10-11-2009, 10:07 PM	#9
mykeuva Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Cuban Merch Illegal? Most of the Cuban brands lost US copyrights to either people that left cuba, or to companies in the US looking to get rights in the name. Every time Cuban companies have tried to challenge their copyrights in US courts post Castro, they have lost to noncuban copyright holders. That's why you see a Cohiba from the DR, as well as a Cohiba from Cuba. The Cohiba from the DR isn't infringing on a copyright in the US if they make cigars, ashtrays with logos, TShirts with logos, etc., b/c they're the ones who actually hold the US copyright (I believe it's General Cigar that owns it), and not the Cuban company.