AF 858 Rosado

09-30-2009, 07:24 PM

I was fortunate enough to pick up a few Arturo Fuente Flor Fina 858 Rosado's from a very generous brother and decided to spark one up this afternoon. It's been a bit windy and rainy these past few days so the patio wasn't an option. I grabbed a bottle of water and it was off to the local B&M lounge to see what awaited me.

A little about this cigar before I delve into my experience with it. There's not a lot of info on this cigar by googling it but according to vitolas.net, this cigar was released in 2002 and only 87 boxes were ever produced. The rosado wrapper was grown by Oliva in Ecuador and is not an Opus X rosado wrapper as sometimes believed.

The cigar was wrapped in a cedar sheet with the tell tale red ribbon on the foot. Flor Fina 858 was printed in gold on the cellophane wrapper. Out of the wrappings, the cigar's light brown wrapper was pretty smooth with a few veins apparent. The bunch looked perfect so I doubt I'd have any draw issues. If there's one thing I've got to hand to the Fuente's, their construction is usually spot on. Under the nose I detected a floral, perfume like bouquet, mixed in with the recent cedar wrapper that adorned the cigar earlier.

The cigar clipped easily and cleanly. It took to the flame pretty easily as well. The burn was relatively even and required only one touch up over the course of the smoke. The 858 Rosado stayed lit for the most part and never went out. Burned cool and the draw was perfect giving off voluminous amounts of smoke. The ash held on for a good bit with a light gray ash.

The initial salvo of flavors were pretty straightforward. No spice however there was a bit of cedar, wood and bitter gourd. The acidity reared it's head front and center. So far a rather bright first third that's mild and light. Things stayed pretty much the same in the second third except a creaminess set in that coated the entire mouth. No real complexity to speak of. Clean toasted tobacco in the final third. What little flavors are present are at least balanced. The finale is rather boring. Wood dominate with a mild spiciness to it. Nose exhalation exhibited a smooth and toasted tobacco exhale.

In summary, I wasn't sure what to expect from this cigar given there's so little information out there about this cigar. Having said that, I was rather disappointed in the overall experience. Not a very complex cigar that was rather mild. It left me wanting more and constantly in search of any real substantial flavor. Of course it wouldn't be fair to judge a cigar bys moking only one so luckily I have a few more in reserve. However I don't plan on aging it long due to the mildness. Would love to hear other's experience with this cigar.

kelmac07 · 09-30-2009, 09:20 PM

Thanks for sharing.

Volt · 10-01-2009, 07:08 AM

If you like the rosado - the AF Chateau Fuente SG line is very good. Specifically the King B. The 858 and CF are the only AF's I readily spend my money on.

T.G · 10-01-2009, 07:29 AM

interesting...

Adriftpanda · 10-01-2009, 08:36 AM

Thanks for the review! I didn't even know that they made a rosado 858, guess they really are that rare. I wonder how rare theyarw compared to the 858 sungrown.

T.G · 10-01-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriftpanda

Thanks for the review! I didn't even know that they made a rosado 858, guess they really are that rare. I wonder how rare theyarw compared to the 858 sungrown.

858 Rosados are exceptionally rare and supposedly not being produced any longer.

858 Sungrowns, while rare, aren't unobtainable, in fact Fuente rolled another batch of them a few years ago (10K cigars IIRC). Fuente just trickles these out onto the market when they see fit. I suspect that when the current batch runs out in a few years, they'll roll up another one and trickle those out too.

Adriftpanda · 10-01-2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.G

858 Rosados are exceptionally rare and supposedly not being produced any longer.

858 Sungrowns, while rare, aren't unobtainable, in fact Fuente rolled another batch of them a few years ago (10K cigars IIRC). Fuente just trickles these out onto the market when they see fit. I suspect that when the current batch runs out in a few years, they'll roll up another one and trickle those out too.

Thanks for the info Adam.

09-30-2009, 07:24 PM	#1
avid toker Guest Posts: n/a	AF 858 Rosado I was fortunate enough to pick up a few Arturo Fuente Flor Fina 858 Rosado's from a very generous brother and decided to spark one up this afternoon. It's been a bit windy and rainy these past few days so the patio wasn't an option. I grabbed a bottle of water and it was off to the local B&M lounge to see what awaited me. A little about this cigar before I delve into my experience with it. There's not a lot of info on this cigar by googling it but according to vitolas.net, this cigar was released in 2002 and only 87 boxes were ever produced. The rosado wrapper was grown by Oliva in Ecuador and is not an Opus X rosado wrapper as sometimes believed. The cigar was wrapped in a cedar sheet with the tell tale red ribbon on the foot. Flor Fina 858 was printed in gold on the cellophane wrapper. Out of the wrappings, the cigar's light brown wrapper was pretty smooth with a few veins apparent. The bunch looked perfect so I doubt I'd have any draw issues. If there's one thing I've got to hand to the Fuente's, their construction is usually spot on. Under the nose I detected a floral, perfume like bouquet, mixed in with the recent cedar wrapper that adorned the cigar earlier. The cigar clipped easily and cleanly. It took to the flame pretty easily as well. The burn was relatively even and required only one touch up over the course of the smoke. The 858 Rosado stayed lit for the most part and never went out. Burned cool and the draw was perfect giving off voluminous amounts of smoke. The ash held on for a good bit with a light gray ash. The initial salvo of flavors were pretty straightforward. No spice however there was a bit of cedar, wood and bitter gourd. The acidity reared it's head front and center. So far a rather bright first third that's mild and light. Things stayed pretty much the same in the second third except a creaminess set in that coated the entire mouth. No real complexity to speak of. Clean toasted tobacco in the final third. What little flavors are present are at least balanced. The finale is rather boring. Wood dominate with a mild spiciness to it. Nose exhalation exhibited a smooth and toasted tobacco exhale. In summary, I wasn't sure what to expect from this cigar given there's so little information out there about this cigar. Having said that, I was rather disappointed in the overall experience. Not a very complex cigar that was rather mild. It left me wanting more and constantly in search of any real substantial flavor. Of course it wouldn't be fair to judge a cigar bys moking only one so luckily I have a few more in reserve. However I don't plan on aging it long due to the mildness. Would love to hear other's experience with this cigar.

09-30-2009, 09:20 PM	#2
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: AF 858 Rosado Thanks for sharing. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

10-01-2009, 07:08 AM	#3
Volt I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,799 Trading: (19)	Re: AF 858 Rosado If you like the rosado - the AF Chateau Fuente SG line is very good. Specifically the King B. The 858 and CF are the only AF's I readily spend my money on. __________________ Curing the infection... One bullet at a time.

10-01-2009, 07:29 AM	#4
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,565 Trading: (37)	Re: AF 858 Rosado interesting...

10-01-2009, 08:36 AM	#5
Adriftpanda Peter's Daddy Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Huy Location: No one wants me Posts: 10,313 Trading: (74)	Re: AF 858 Rosado Thanks for the review! I didn't even know that they made a rosado 858, guess they really are that rare. I wonder how rare theyarw compared to the 858 sungrown. __________________ Who eats plantains when they can eat placenta.