Breaking up with Graycliff

LeoM · 08-27-2009, 06:08 PM

Ok, so for the longest time the Graycliff Double Espresso has been one of my favorite NC's. I hadn't smoked one if several months, so I decided tonight would be a great night to "catch up" with my old friend. So I stepped outside, cut just enough off the cap, pre-draw was nice and earthy with a little chocolate, just like I remembered. Toasted the foot and lit her up. First draw was awesome, all the flavors I remembered and loved. About an inch into it though, it just went "flat" (for lack of a better word). No real flavor at all! Almost like smoking air. Tried purging, still didn't improve. So I figured, oh well, I'll just smoke it down a little and it'll get better. Nope! smoked it down to 2/3 and still nothing!! Now I'm not the kinda guy who will continue smoking that I don't enjoy (life's too short), so I chucked the poor guy and waved good-bye to an old friend.

Now I'm stuck...I'm hoping they're just in a "dead zone" and after a few more months, they'll come back, but I just don't know.

I've had these for about 2 years from when a friend of mine went to Graycliff and picked up the box (I know they don't come in boxes, but he was like "I just bought 25 of these, so put them in a box of some sort", and I really hope they come back to being the smokes I love. If not, I guess my affair with Graycliff is over.

Now I'm going to go light up a LGC MdO 1, which is smoking great right now and drown my sorrows in a glass of Don Julio Anjeo.

Skywalker · 08-27-2009, 06:14 PM

Sorry Leo!!! Maybe it was just that stick???

Don't give up on them!!!

hotreds · 08-27-2009, 06:43 PM

Remember these things are hand made! You could have just picked out a dud. I wouldn't be so quick to give up on 'em!

captain53 · 08-27-2009, 06:50 PM

Hopefully it will just be 1 and done with the bad ones.

Mr. Ed · 08-27-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Remember these things are hand made! You could have just picked out a dud. I wouldn't be so quick to give up on 'em!

Just because one was bad or had a tight draw doesn't mean the whole box or batch is ruined or in a 'dead zone'.

LeoM · 08-27-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hotreds

Remember these things are hand made! You could have just picked out a dud. I wouldn't be so quick to give up on 'em!

Very true! I've just never had one like this after smoking hundreds (I'm sure) of this particular stick. I'll hold out and hope for the best. I'm not giving up yet, just makes one wonder is all.

SmokinCozy · 08-27-2009, 07:16 PM

Don't listen to all these guys, those are way over priced dog rockets and aren't worth your time, I will shoot you my addy in a bit for proper disposal.

LeoM · 08-27-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinCozy

Don't listen to all these guys, those are way over priced dog rockets and aren't worth your time, I will shoot you my addy in a bit for proper disposal.

Thanks buddy!!! You're help is much appreciated in assisting me with this issue!

08-27-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeoM

I've had these for about 2 years from when a friend of mine went to Graycliff and picked up the box

Two years shouldn't be alarming, but I do have a box of once-so-lovely La Aurora Sublimes that I bought from the factory in DR 4-5 years ago. They used to be the sweetest, lightest floral smokes that I'd know, but now they are all bitter and bland. My point is, some sticks just don't age very well at all. Still, I've never-ever heard of a smoke that would "go bad" in two years, so I'd say that you just hit a bad one.

Sr Mike · 08-29-2009, 11:59 PM

I am undecided on Graycliff. The 1666 is one of the most disappointing cigars I have ever smoked. Hopefully that was just a bad one.

poriggity · 08-30-2009, 12:04 AM

I've never been impressed with graycliff. The price has always kept me away. That being said, if you enjoyed them previously, don't give up based on one stick. Come back to them.. Give them another shot. I give every stick at least 3 tries before I write it off completely.
Scott

shilala · 08-30-2009, 12:05 AM

Leo, in my experience, they have a "window".
They suck, then settle down and smoke great for awhile, then they die.
It took almost a year for me to settle down the 1666's I have and they're smoking great right now. In a couple years, I expect they'll turn to air.
I try to burn the Double Espressos as fast as I can as soon as they're ready, cause when they go flat, they're flat.
It isn't gonna hurt to let them sit, so maybe revisit them in six months.
It could very well be that your tastes have changed, too?

08-30-2009, 02:26 AM

Ditto what everyone is saying. If it is one of your favorites expect a bad one every now and then. If you have a whole box of them,,smoke a couple more and if those are bad send em back from where you bought them,,,most reputable B&M's will credit you back,,,,and if they don't write the company and let them know your displeasure. Squeeky wheel theory works more often than not.

BigCat · 08-31-2009, 12:43 PM

Dont forget your palate could also just be off - depending on hydration, what you just ate, what you were drinking with it, etc. Or you could have gotten a bad stick. I'd smoke a couple more before declaring them dead.

08-27-2009, 06:08 PM	#1
LeoM "Say what again!" Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Leo Location: Passed out under an Agave Posts: 690 Trading: (87)	Breaking up with Graycliff Ok, so for the longest time the Graycliff Double Espresso has been one of my favorite NC's. I hadn't smoked one if several months, so I decided tonight would be a great night to "catch up" with my old friend. So I stepped outside, cut just enough off the cap, pre-draw was nice and earthy with a little chocolate, just like I remembered. Toasted the foot and lit her up. First draw was awesome, all the flavors I remembered and loved. About an inch into it though, it just went "flat" (for lack of a better word). No real flavor at all! Almost like smoking air. Tried purging, still didn't improve. So I figured, oh well, I'll just smoke it down a little and it'll get better. Nope! smoked it down to 2/3 and still nothing!! Now I'm not the kinda guy who will continue smoking that I don't enjoy (life's too short), so I chucked the poor guy and waved good-bye to an old friend. Now I'm stuck...I'm hoping they're just in a "dead zone" and after a few more months, they'll come back, but I just don't know. I've had these for about 2 years from when a friend of mine went to Graycliff and picked up the box (I know they don't come in boxes, but he was like "I just bought 25 of these, so put them in a box of some sort", and I really hope they come back to being the smokes I love. If not, I guess my affair with Graycliff is over. Now I'm going to go light up a LGC MdO 1, which is smoking great right now and drown my sorrows in a glass of Don Julio Anjeo. __________________ Did you know Smurfs are only three apples tall?

08-27-2009, 06:14 PM	#2
Skywalker BABOTL Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dice Location: Galaxy Far Far Away Posts: 10,168 Trading: (18)	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff Sorry Leo!!! Maybe it was just that stick??? Don't give up on them!!! __________________ Smoke what you like!!!

08-27-2009, 06:43 PM	#3
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,662 Trading: (63)	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff Remember these things are hand made! You could have just picked out a dud. I wouldn't be so quick to give up on 'em! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

08-27-2009, 06:50 PM	#4
captain53 Have My Own Room Join Date: Jul 2009 First Name: Dave Location: Lake of the Ozarks & Austin, TX Posts: 1,333 Trading: (3)	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff Hopefully it will just be 1 and done with the bad ones.

08-27-2009, 07:16 PM	#7
SmokinCozy I don't smoke that Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Craig Location: Los Angeles Posts: 562 Trading: (47)	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff Don't listen to all these guys, those are way over priced dog rockets and aren't worth your time, I will shoot you my addy in a bit for proper disposal. __________________ And how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain..

08-29-2009, 11:59 PM	#10
Sr Mike As Is Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: EBFE Posts: 657 Trading: (6)	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff I am undecided on Graycliff. The 1666 is one of the most disappointing cigars I have ever smoked. Hopefully that was just a bad one.

08-30-2009, 12:04 AM	#11
poriggity Cigar Zombie Fo Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Location: Lake Arrowhead, Ca Posts: 806 Trading: (13)	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff I've never been impressed with graycliff. The price has always kept me away. That being said, if you enjoyed them previously, don't give up based on one stick. Come back to them.. Give them another shot. I give every stick at least 3 tries before I write it off completely. Scott __________________ Bearded Dad Blog

08-30-2009, 12:05 AM	#12
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff Leo, in my experience, they have a "window". They suck, then settle down and smoke great for awhile, then they die. It took almost a year for me to settle down the 1666's I have and they're smoking great right now. In a couple years, I expect they'll turn to air. I try to burn the Double Espressos as fast as I can as soon as they're ready, cause when they go flat, they're flat. It isn't gonna hurt to let them sit, so maybe revisit them in six months. It could very well be that your tastes have changed, too? __________________

08-30-2009, 02:26 AM	#13
Cigary Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff Ditto what everyone is saying. If it is one of your favorites expect a bad one every now and then. If you have a whole box of them,,smoke a couple more and if those are bad send em back from where you bought them,,,most reputable B&M's will credit you back,,,,and if they don't write the company and let them know your displeasure. Squeeky wheel theory works more often than not.

08-31-2009, 12:43 PM	#14
BigCat My back is now unwatched. Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Colin Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 723 Trading: (5)	Re: Breaking up with Graycliff Dont forget your palate could also just be off - depending on hydration, what you just ate, what you were drinking with it, etc. Or you could have gotten a bad stick. I'd smoke a couple more before declaring them dead.