Mercury clean up

galaga · 08-07-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken

Great, I have a nuclear disaster in my basement and you're making jokes.

That's a government employee's ten step program for you! Scare the **** out of you every time.

Seangar used to play with it and he's still functioning! Just b/c he used to be a hansom fellow and now he looks like Willie Nelson had nothing to do with the mercury: that was from playing with benzene to boost his octane.

gnukfu · 08-07-2009, 10:00 AM

45 years ago it wasn't a problem. I remember playing with mercury that fell on the floor when I broke my toys that contained it. Now if you spill some you have created a Superfund site and millions of dollars must be spent to clean the area. Anyway this repeats the gist of what has been said above but I still felt like typing it....probably due to mercury exposure when I was a child.

Starscream · 08-07-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gnukfu

45 years ago it wasn't a problem. I remember playing with mercury that fell on the floor when I broke my toys that contained it. Now if you spill some you have created a Superfund site and millions of dollars must be spent to clean the area. Anyway this repeats the gist of what has been said above but I still felt like typing it....probably due to mercury exposure when I was a child.

Kinda like DDT. Both were harmless in their day, but now they're both the start of the end of the world.

shilala · 08-07-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Kinda like DDT. Both were harmless in their day, but now they're both the start of the end of the world.

DDT really was an environmental hazard. It screws up eggs. It's why there were no turkeys and the fish were nearly gone around here.
It's also to blame for anything the sharp decline in all things that came from eggs.
It's been done away with in my time, and as an outdoorsman and anal scientist who has always lived in farm country in the sticks, I've got to see the resultant rebound myself.
I still won't eat fish from the Great Lakes, but we used tons for our trapline when we were kids. Raccoons love mercury.

Starscream · 08-07-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

DDT really was an environmental hazard. It screws up eggs. It's why there were no turkeys and the fish were nearly gone around here.
It's also to blame for anything the sharp decline in all things that came from eggs.
It's been done away with in my time, and as an outdoorsman and anal scientist who has always lived in farm country in the sticks, I've got to see the resultant rebound myself.
I still won't eat fish from the Great Lakes, but we used tons for our trapline when we were kids. Raccoons love mercury.

Not trying to start a debate or anything, Scott, but DDT has saved billions of lives. I'd go without eggs if it meant billions not dying from malaria. BTW, there is also no proven link between DDT and cancer. I couldn't tell you about cancer and mercury, though.

End thread jack.

lightning9191 · 08-07-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by shilala

It's been done away with in my time, and as an outdoorsman and anal scientist who has always lived in farm country...

Really?

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Not trying to start a debate or anything, Scott, but DDT has saved billions of lives. I'd go without eggs if it meant billions not dying from malaria. BTW, there is also no proven link between DDT and cancer. I couldn't tell you about cancer and mercury, though.

End thread jack.

But without eggs we lose a ton of biodiversity...a ton....not good. We don't just lose eggs for breakfast.

shilala · 08-07-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by andysutherland

Not trying to start a debate or anything, Scott, but DDT has saved billions of lives. I'd go without eggs if it meant billions not dying from malaria. BTW, there is also no proven link between DDT and cancer. I couldn't tell you about cancer and mercury, though.
End thread jack.

Andy, the egg thing doesn't have any connection to cancer (and I didn't know there was even controversy as to ddt being a carcinogen).
DDT gets in the environment, then gets in the animals.
It causes the shells of eggs to become very fragile. This goes for all egg laying critters.
As a result, the eggs break, and no baby critters.
That's all good proven stuff.

I don't think we disagree at all. It had it's time, and it did a lot of damage that's been reversed by it's discontinuation.

There's new more gooder stuff nowadays that doesn't cause the damage DDT did. It's cause we got a bit smarter. I hope.

I'm all for chemicals, by the way. I just use stuff I'm not afraid to drink.
I spend a lot of time reading all the little black letters on the white paper, not that it helps, but the things I use are stuff that hasn't killed me yet.

shilala · 08-07-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gnukfu

45 years ago it wasn't a problem. I remember playing with mercury that fell on the floor when I broke my toys that contained it. Now if you spill some you have created a Superfund site and millions of dollars must be spent to clean the area. Anyway this repeats the gist of what has been said above but I still felt like typing it....probably due to mercury exposure when I was a child.

It was probably the paint chips, George.
You quit eating them yet?

Ken · 08-07-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by galaga

Seangar used to play with it and he's still functioning!

I've drank and smoked cigars with Sean, what do you consider functioning?

The wife works at UPS in safety and just spoke with the head guy for these problems and he didn't feel this small amount would amount to much.

galaga · 08-07-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken

I've drank and smoked cigars with Sean, what do you consider functioning?

The wife works at UPS in safety and just spoke with the head guy for these problems and he didn't feel this small amount would amount to much.

DOH! That might have been more scary than Tom's 10 step program

But I'm sure it was more fun.....

SeanGAR · 08-07-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken

I've drank and smoked cigars with Sean, what do you consider functioning?

You tell him ... I'm only incontinent on days that end in y ... and I never repeat myself.

Besides, I'm only incontinent on days that end in y ... and I never repeat myself.

Neurological damage? I doubt it, because I never repeat myself, and that's one of the first symptoms of mercury poisoning.

Repeating myself .. you know .. which I don't do. So, because I never repeat myself I should be OK.

Ken · 08-07-2009, 06:30 PM

OK, one last thing. I've scooped about all I can scoop.

So, do I really need to worry about every last granule? I'm probably going to go over this a few times to make sure I'm not missing anything big.

Old Sailor · 08-07-2009, 06:49 PM

If you have kids and animals I'd get it all up now before they tromp through it.

Ken · 08-07-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Sailor

If you have kids and animals I'd get it all up now before they tromp through it.

Not an issue with anyone else going around it; just me. But usually when I'm in the room I making a path up the stairs and to the garage.

I was actually told those small particles will evaporate and that small amount would not be dangerous.

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Too bad mercury is not magnetic, that would make for an easy clean up!

Now wouldn't that be sweet.

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gnukfu I like cigars Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: George Location: Massholia Posts: 1,466 Trading: (27)	Re: Mercury clean up 45 years ago it wasn't a problem. I remember playing with mercury that fell on the floor when I broke my toys that contained it. Now if you spill some you have created a Superfund site and millions of dollars must be spent to clean the area. Anyway this repeats the gist of what has been said above but I still felt like typing it....probably due to mercury exposure when I was a child. __________________ Curious George

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Ken Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Albany, In Posts: 241 Trading: (0)	Re: Mercury clean up OK, one last thing. I've scooped about all I can scoop. So, do I really need to worry about every last granule? I'm probably going to go over this a few times to make sure I'm not missing anything big.

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Old Sailor Black Ops - S.O.B. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Side Porta!! Kingsville, Ont., Canada Posts: 4,218 Trading: (22)	Re: Mercury clean up If you have kids and animals I'd get it all up now before they tromp through it. __________________ Canadian Armed Forces 1976! Canadian Coast Guard, retired in 2012 after 32 years!!