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Old 07-27-2009, 08:24 PM   #1
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Second chances? What about all of the animals that never got a second chance? What about his bankrolling and producing everything about what he got nailed for? He knowingly went in to that enterprise with the intentions of causing harm and to make money at the expense of the lives of a huge number of dogs,,,,and then burying them like casual garbage. To say he has served his time is subjective at best,,,that is like telling a child to go to "time out" and then pat him on the head and saying " good boy" and go back and play and have fun. Serving time is not the equivalent of learning his lesson or bearing the consequences of those actions. Football is something I enjoy as a fan and as a player myself but when I played the game it was about who you were in association with those you played with and the man you are. Michael Vick is a person who is out for Michael Vick alone,,,not the NFL, not the fans and certainly not for those he has hurt in his lifes journey. For any person with a criminal background who wants to redeem himself in life,,,do it because you want to change yourself but not because you can be an athlete and do things on the field,,,,,this is not a barometer for who you are as a human being. A real man will change his life and behavior and "fix" that which he has broken,,,not just served time in a prison cell.
This statement is very true, but if it applies to him, it should apply to all players in the league. Why are there murderers who served a mere 90 days in prison and are still playing in the NFL, and Vick is being judged more harshly than these people? Killing dogs is nothing compared to killing humans IMHO. Not that what Vick did was right (if I had my way, none of these people would be playing right now), but if people who do worse things than Vick are still playing, then he deserves a chance to play as well.
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:29 PM   #2
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This statement is very true, but if it applies to him, it should apply to all players in the league. Why are there murderers who served a mere 90 days in prison and are still playing in the NFL, and Vick is being judged more harshly than these people? Killing dogs is nothing compared to killing humans IMHO. Not that what Vick did was right (if I had my way, none of these people would be playing right now), but if people who do worse things than Vick are still playing, then he deserves a chance to play as well.
Maybe if Goodell was commissioner, some of these players would not have been reinstated as soon as they were under the previous commissioner.
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:59 PM   #3
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Maybe if Goodell was commissioner, some of these players would not have been reinstated as soon as they were under the previous commissioner.
I would bet money on it.
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:49 PM   #4
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This statement is very true, but if it applies to him, it should apply to all players in the league. Why are there murderers who served a mere 90 days in prison and are still playing in the NFL, and Vick is being judged more harshly than these people? Killing dogs is nothing compared to killing humans IMHO. Not that what Vick did was right (if I had my way, none of these people would be playing right now), but if people who do worse things than Vick are still playing, then he deserves a chance to play as well.
Because the world is not a fair place to live,,,it's imperfect and things that are wrong will always be wrong no matter who gets to skate around the obvious. Just because somebody else is not held to the same standards and gets away with their responsibilities does not mean we just let everyone skate. All of the other people you mentioned should never have been allowed to return to football,,,,,but they were because it is a system that is flawed and you have business people who don't give a $hit about what is right or wrong,,,they only care about how much money it brings into the system. Vick is monster at best and when you say that killing dogs is nothing compared to human beings you displace the sheer act of "killing" like it is something that can be measured as to how wrong it is. Had Vick killed a human being by running a red light vs having dogs trained to kill each other means that he is responsible for each act. He does not get a "pass" for what he did. I don't see the reasoning for letting him play just because other people did worse things,,,sometimes you get justice,,,sometimes you don't and that is what we get for living in an imperfect world.
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