NHL '08- '09 Thread

Ahbroody · 06-13-2009, 04:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9I41yMiOPQ

He comes in at the very end after most have left.
I will disagree with doesnt deserve to wear a C. The captain of a team is there to rally his team. Not the other team. He is not there to be buddies with the other team. While it was CLEARLY poor sportsmanship, that is not the primary role of a captain on hockey team. Having played competitive sports in and through HS I will say the captain was there to lead you onto the field and give his all on the field. You look at your captain as to how you are supposed to play first as to giving everything you have on the field. The old 110% moto. Not all captains are raw raw guys, not all captains are good sports. I can tell you no one in the Pens locker room is complaining. As to whether he deserves or earned the C, you need to look to who was on the team when he got there, and what he has done for the team since arriving as to why it was given to him so quickly. While I think Malkin may have been better, his english skills likely helped play a role in that decision back then.

There are two ways to look at this.
1)Crosby being the NHL posterboy and Bettmans savior was busy giving out interviews. The league wants its poster boy on the TV. Im married with 3 kids so I can say comfortably he is an attractive, young guy. The game was on NBC a major TV network. I am sure there was presure to get him on the TV fast before viewers tuned out.

2) The handshake is done at most levels of hockey, basically once tournements start (al can verify this) Its Chicken **** that Crosby shrugged a tradition almost as old as the game its self to get face time. The Cameras would have been there after the handshake. The issue is some of the viewers maynot have been.

I got no stake in this. I see why it happened. The NHL is trying to get a major network deal better then their existing. They want their posterboy on TV. Crosby is in many including the players eyes a crybaby and at times poor sport. So maybe he did it because he was mad, maybe not.

One thing is for certain. There is no way on this earth he didnt realize he was doing it. He has been shaking hands after series since youth hockey, no way he forgot.

LasciviousXXX · 06-13-2009, 04:48 PM

Sorry I didn't state clearly why I don't think he deserves the C. He didn't earn the C initially when it was given to him. He didn't put in the work to get there and wasn't a rallying point for his team. It was just given to him as the promise of a "golden boy" loomed on the Pens horizon. IMO there were others on the team at the time that deserved that C far more than Crosby

DrDubzz · 06-13-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LasciviousXXX

Sorry I didn't state clearly why I don't think he deserves the C. He didn't earn the C initially when it was given to him. He didn't put in the work to get there and wasn't a rallying point for his team. It was just given to him as the promise of a "golden boy" loomed on the Pens horizon. IMO there were others on the team at the time that deserved that C far more than Crosby

It's seems like they said, well... you're Sidney Crosby, here's your "C"

I don't follow the Pens closely, so I wouldn't have suggestions for who, but it's hard to imagine a team doesn't have a more veteran/leader guy than a 21 year old to be the figure head of the team.

icehog3 · 06-13-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RX2010

It's seems like they said, well... you're Sidney Crosby, here's your "C"

I don't follow the Pens closely, so I wouldn't have suggestions for who, but it's hard to imagine a team doesn't have a more veteran/leader guy than a 21 year old to be the figure head of the team.

While I would tend to agree in general, the Blackhawks made 20 year old Jonathan Toews the Captain this season, and they could not have made a better choice...a solid young man of character who leads by example.

DrDubzz · 06-14-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

While I would tend to agree in general, the Blackhawks made 20 year old Jonathan Toews the Captain this season, and they could not have made a better choice...a solid young man of character who leads by example.

and there are always exceptions, but correct me if I'm wrong, he played a while with them before gaining the "C" right? I would tend to think he earned, was voted captain etc.

where it seems like Crosby was handed it because of who he is, of course this is my outside view, and I actually have no idea. I don't follow hockey nearly as closely and passionately as I used to

06-13-2009, 04:29 PM	#1
Ahbroody Daddy x 4 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mike Location: San Jose Posts: 3,708 Trading: (53)	Re: NHL '08- '09 Thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9I41yMiOPQ He comes in at the very end after most have left. I will disagree with doesnt deserve to wear a C. The captain of a team is there to rally his team. Not the other team. He is not there to be buddies with the other team. While it was CLEARLY poor sportsmanship, that is not the primary role of a captain on hockey team. Having played competitive sports in and through HS I will say the captain was there to lead you onto the field and give his all on the field. You look at your captain as to how you are supposed to play first as to giving everything you have on the field. The old 110% moto. Not all captains are raw raw guys, not all captains are good sports. I can tell you no one in the Pens locker room is complaining. As to whether he deserves or earned the C, you need to look to who was on the team when he got there, and what he has done for the team since arriving as to why it was given to him so quickly. While I think Malkin may have been better, his english skills likely helped play a role in that decision back then. There are two ways to look at this. 1)Crosby being the NHL posterboy and Bettmans savior was busy giving out interviews. The league wants its poster boy on the TV. Im married with 3 kids so I can say comfortably he is an attractive, young guy. The game was on NBC a major TV network. I am sure there was presure to get him on the TV fast before viewers tuned out. 2) The handshake is done at most levels of hockey, basically once tournements start (al can verify this) Its Chicken **** that Crosby shrugged a tradition almost as old as the game its self to get face time. The Cameras would have been there after the handshake. The issue is some of the viewers maynot have been. I got no stake in this. I see why it happened. The NHL is trying to get a major network deal better then their existing. They want their posterboy on TV. Crosby is in many including the players eyes a crybaby and at times poor sport. So maybe he did it because he was mad, maybe not. One thing is for certain. There is no way on this earth he didnt realize he was doing it. He has been shaking hands after series since youth hockey, no way he forgot. Last edited by Ahbroody; 06-13-2009 at 04:40 PM.

06-13-2009, 04:48 PM	#2
LasciviousXXX Team of 11...Always Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Týr Location: New Orleans Posts: 4,579 Trading: (8)	Re: NHL '08- '09 Thread Sorry I didn't state clearly why I don't think he deserves the C. He didn't earn the C initially when it was given to him. He didn't put in the work to get there and wasn't a rallying point for his team. It was just given to him as the promise of a "golden boy" loomed on the Pens horizon. IMO there were others on the team at the time that deserved that C far more than Crosby