Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a brand?

e-man67 · 06-12-2009, 10:02 AM

So we have all had the experience of having a "bad" sticks from various manufactures....whether it be the tobacco was rolled too tight/loose to enjoy, uneven burns, or horid taste. With that said, do you tend to shy away from brands that you have had bad initial experiences with? I have had a few bad Opus X's...but lucky for me that I had quite a few really really good ones before the bad experience....now I have had 4 different flavors of RP's and my initial response to all was blah...... same thing with Illusion's, had a blah first stick so even though others in the line might look tastier I don't take the chance and buy them..I tend to stick to what I know is good. What about you guys and gals?

06-12-2009, 10:11 AM

I had the same thing with 5 Vegas... tried a few more... and now enjoy them occasionally

NCRadioMan · 06-12-2009, 10:17 AM

I try alot, and I mean alot of different cigars. I will smoke at least two no matter what the first result was. If there are two bad results, I usually do not revisit them. I don't really take into account construction because there are always going to be some that are not up to par. I tend to focus on flavor alone. Everything else I can deal with.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

TheTraveler · 06-12-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I try alot, and I mean alot of different cigars. I will smoke at least two no matter what the first result was. If there are two bad results, I usually do not revisit them. I don't really take into account construction because there are always going to be some that are not up to par. I tend to focus on flavor alone. Everything else I can deal with.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

+1 for me. Unless it's clearly a dog rocket I'll give it a second chance - but usually not more than a second chance 'cause there are way too many others I need to try and not enough time!

Clampdown · 06-12-2009, 10:25 AM

For only the time being. I had a box of RASS that made me regret trying and buying it. However, after some time I went back and revisited it and found out that I absolutely love the entire marca. This same thing has happened with Monte. Im not a fan of the Petite Edmundo but then I had an 06 Monte 2 and now stock up on that box whenever i see them.

csbrewfisher · 06-12-2009, 10:28 AM

Bad singles may not steer me away from the brand, but it may make me shy of the particular vitola. There are two resent smokes that come to mind.

1. Vegas Cubanas Generosos
2. Pepin JJ Belicoso

Hard to condemn Pepins, but the VC made me gag, and the JJ was meh. Would I try them again? Probably, but I wouldn't buy them.

Bruzee · 06-12-2009, 10:40 AM

I had that experience with Camacho. I tried several, and hated them all. For a long time I wouldn't smoke anything Camacho. I've since revisited, and found 1 or 2 that I like.

TripleF · 06-12-2009, 10:43 AM

Only two

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alley00p · 06-12-2009, 10:51 AM

I normally will try a new brand (to me) at least twice - we've all had a bum stick now and then. If the second time is the bum stick, but the first was decent, I'll try at least one more. But I won't keep going on, hoping that I'll like the brand eventually.

As someone said above - "Too many cigars - so little time"...

VTDragon · 06-12-2009, 12:43 PM

If it's the construction that is poor I'll stay away from the entire brand. If it's the taste that's not to my liking, I'll try others of that brand.

CAO comes to mind as a brand that I like some of but dislike others, however all have good quality construction.

kaisersozei · 06-12-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I try alot, and I mean alot of different cigars. I will smoke at least two no matter what the first result was. If there are two bad results, I usually do not revisit them. I don't really take into account construction because there are always going to be some that are not up to par. I tend to focus on flavor alone. Everything else I can deal with.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Yep, same here.

The Poet · 06-12-2009, 02:47 PM

On this topic in general, the best advise I ever heard was from Lew Rothman himself. He avers you must remember that cigars are a handmade organic product, and the best cigar you ever smoked may be lying in the same box right beside the worst cigar you ever smoked.

Don't hate me because I'm beautiful - or ugly.

Bruins Fan · 06-12-2009, 04:31 PM

Chateau Fuente used to be one of my favorite smokes, but it was a crap shoot if you got a good one, so I stay away from them.
CAO pretty bands don't make good smokes, same thing.

Chemyst · 06-12-2009, 09:26 PM

What #7 said.

Chemyst

groogs · 06-12-2009, 09:40 PM

If it was really really bad I would probably steer away from that smoke in the future. If it was a construction, or just tasted off, I would try it again to give the smoke a fair shot.

Azpostal · 06-13-2009, 01:33 AM

I always give them 2 try's but after that forget it!

06-13-2009, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I try alot, and I mean alot of different cigars. I will smoke at least two no matter what the first result was. If there are two bad results, I usually do not revisit them. I don't really take into account construction because there are always going to be some that are not up to par. I tend to focus on flavor alone. Everything else I can deal with.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Can't argue with this kind of logic. Every once in awhile you will run into a bad cigar no matter what brand. I usually will buy a 5 pak and try at least two of them to see if I like it. If they don't work out for me there are always brothers out there I know that like them and I will pay it forward to them.

jerseystepup · 06-13-2009, 05:04 AM

ill always try one stick fresh and one stick with alot of humi time.. i think theres alot of blends out there that need alot of rest to bring out what theyre capable of... even if im buying just 2 singles.. one goes to the bottom of my humi..

WildBlueSooner · 06-13-2009, 08:21 AM

For me first impressions are huge, but I always make an effort to give second chances. This goes for cigars as well as most other things. I try to completely block out any lingering "feelings" towards a brand and try another one. This has paid dividends in the past because some of my favorite smokes were ones that I did not enjoy on the first smoke.

Another thing to keep in mind is sometimes it is the smoker, not the smoke. Depending on what you ate, how you feel, etc. a good smoke can just be bad on a certain day.

kelmac07 · 06-13-2009, 09:55 AM

I always give a stick a second change (might have gotten a dud)...exception to this rule is that damn Gorilla Finger by Lars Teten. I will NEVER entertain their product again!!

06-12-2009, 10:02 AM	#1
e-man67 Big Drunkin Monkey!! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Eric Posts: 1,480 Trading: (29)	Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a brand? So we have all had the experience of having a "bad" sticks from various manufactures....whether it be the tobacco was rolled too tight/loose to enjoy, uneven burns, or horid taste. With that said, do you tend to shy away from brands that you have had bad initial experiences with? I have had a few bad Opus X's...but lucky for me that I had quite a few really really good ones before the bad experience....now I have had 4 different flavors of RP's and my initial response to all was blah...... same thing with Illusion's, had a blah first stick so even though others in the line might look tastier I don't take the chance and buy them..I tend to stick to what I know is good. What about you guys and gals?

06-12-2009, 10:11 AM	#2
dubnick Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br I had the same thing with 5 Vegas... tried a few more... and now enjoy them occasionally

06-12-2009, 10:17 AM	#3
NCRadioMan Chutney Lovebusciut Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Chutney Location: On the shores of Loch Shiel Posts: 4,281 Trading: (66)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br I try alot, and I mean alot of different cigars. I will smoke at least two no matter what the first result was. If there are two bad results, I usually do not revisit them. I don't really take into account construction because there are always going to be some that are not up to par. I tend to focus on flavor alone. Everything else I can deal with. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. __________________ The path to loyalty is trust.

06-12-2009, 10:25 AM	#5
Clampdown I Cut Like a Buffalo Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Brian Location: Noneya Posts: 868 Trading: (12)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br For only the time being. I had a box of RASS that made me regret trying and buying it. However, after some time I went back and revisited it and found out that I absolutely love the entire marca. This same thing has happened with Monte. Im not a fan of the Petite Edmundo but then I had an 06 Monte 2 and now stock up on that box whenever i see them.

06-12-2009, 10:28 AM	#6
csbrewfisher Welcome to my nightmare Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jerry Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 676 Trading: (10)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br Bad singles may not steer me away from the brand, but it may make me shy of the particular vitola. There are two resent smokes that come to mind. 1. Vegas Cubanas Generosos 2. Pepin JJ Belicoso Hard to condemn Pepins, but the VC made me gag, and the JJ was meh. Would I try them again? Probably, but I wouldn't buy them.

06-12-2009, 10:40 AM	#7
Bruzee Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: D Location: San Diego Posts: 1,508 Trading: (30)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br I had that experience with Camacho. I tried several, and hated them all. For a long time I wouldn't smoke anything Camacho. I've since revisited, and found 1 or 2 that I like. __________________

06-12-2009, 10:43 AM	#8
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06-12-2009, 10:51 AM	#9
alley00p Adopted MassHole Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Charlie Location: HOCKEYTOWN! Posts: 1,770 Trading: (41)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br I normally will try a new brand (to me) at least twice - we've all had a bum stick now and then. If the second time is the bum stick, but the first was decent, I'll try at least one more. But I won't keep going on, hoping that I'll like the brand eventually. As someone said above - "Too many cigars - so little time"... __________________ Alley00p - I may be a FOG, but I'm still trying to dance!! Just don't trip over my cane!

06-12-2009, 12:43 PM	#10
VTDragon Feeling at Home Join Date: May 2009 First Name: Gary Location: Vermont Posts: 627 Trading: (0)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br If it's the construction that is poor I'll stay away from the entire brand. If it's the taste that's not to my liking, I'll try others of that brand. CAO comes to mind as a brand that I like some of but dislike others, however all have good quality construction. __________________ An expert is a person who knows enough about what's really going on ... to be scared.

06-12-2009, 02:47 PM	#12
The Poet Il megglior fabbro Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Thomas Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 8,420 Trading: (2)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br On this topic in general, the best advise I ever heard was from Lew Rothman himself. He avers you must remember that cigars are a handmade organic product, and the best cigar you ever smoked may be lying in the same box right beside the worst cigar you ever smoked. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful - or ugly.

06-12-2009, 04:31 PM	#13
Bruins Fan Hooper drives the boat. Join Date: May 2009 First Name: John Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,359 Trading: (0)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br Chateau Fuente used to be one of my favorite smokes, but it was a crap shoot if you got a good one, so I stay away from them. CAO pretty bands don't make good smokes, same thing. __________________ Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

06-12-2009, 09:26 PM	#14
Chemyst Doin Time on Planet Earth Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Ken Location: So. Jersey Posts: 392 Trading: (7)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br What #7 said. Chemyst

06-12-2009, 09:40 PM	#15
groogs Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Grant Posts: 1,945 Trading: (62)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br If it was really really bad I would probably steer away from that smoke in the future. If it was a construction, or just tasted off, I would try it again to give the smoke a fair shot.

06-13-2009, 01:33 AM	#16
Azpostal Feeling at Home Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Don Location: Arizona Posts: 511 Trading: (9)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br I always give them 2 try's but after that forget it!

06-13-2009, 05:04 AM	#18
jerseystepup L-I-V-I-N Join Date: Jun 2009 First Name: Randy Location: New Jersey Posts: 774 Trading: (9)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br ill always try one stick fresh and one stick with alot of humi time.. i think theres alot of blends out there that need alot of rest to bring out what theyre capable of... even if im buying just 2 singles.. one goes to the bottom of my humi..

06-13-2009, 08:21 AM	#19
WildBlueSooner I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: James Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 3,322 Trading: (19)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br For me first impressions are huge, but I always make an effort to give second chances. This goes for cigars as well as most other things. I try to completely block out any lingering "feelings" towards a brand and try another one. This has paid dividends in the past because some of my favorite smokes were ones that I did not enjoy on the first smoke. Another thing to keep in mind is sometimes it is the smoker, not the smoke. Depending on what you ate, how you feel, etc. a good smoke can just be bad on a certain day. __________________ "To dilute the will to win is to destroy the purpose of the game. There is no substitute for victory"-- Douglas MacArthur

06-13-2009, 09:55 AM	#20
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Do bad initial cigars steer you away from a br I always give a stick a second change (might have gotten a dud)...exception to this rule is that damn Gorilla Finger by Lars Teten. I will NEVER entertain their product again!!