Lighters and Flying

Raralith · 04-16-2009, 07:09 PM

I'm going to be flying to NYC in a bit, and I was wondering if anyone has any person experiences with bringing a light (Ronson)? Can I leave it on my bag, and check it in? Or would it be better to just buy matches when I arrive or another cheap butane lighter?

TXRebel · 04-16-2009, 08:45 PM

As per the TSA (Tear Sh!t Apart) Regs no torch lighters carry-on or checked. Purchase a cheap lighter at your destination.

Les Nessman · 04-16-2009, 09:10 PM

I'm in NYC, you can find a Ronson Jetlite at CVS stores for around $4.

MarkinAZ · 04-16-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXRebel

As per the TSA (Tear Sh!t Apart) Regs no torch lighters carry-on or checked. Purchase a cheap lighter at your destination.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Nessman

I'm in NYC, you can find a Ronson Jetlite at CVS stores for around $4.

Sounds like wise advice from both. I have a PB-207 Torch and would hate to lose it due to rediculous TSA regs. Much easier to simply purchase at your destination (less stress and worry period)

Coz77 · 04-17-2009, 08:00 AM

Keep your lighters at home...I'd buy a BIC at a local gas station and call it a day.

md4958 · 04-17-2009, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coz77

Keep your lighters at home...I'd buy a BIC at a local gas station and call it a day.

When I went to Vegas, I popped into the hotel gift shop and got myself a soft flame lighter and it doubled as a souvenir

Ashcan Bill · 04-17-2009, 08:59 AM

While you can't fly with a torch, you can with a soft flame butane lighter (at least at the moment - they change the rules fairly often).

I just carry a cheap Bic type lighter when I fly. I toss it in my carry on and haven't had a problem yet. If some TSA person did take it, I'm not out anything.

Not as nice as a torch, but they do the trick just fine.

IBQTEE1 · 04-17-2009, 09:56 AM

I put my torch lighters in one of my jean pockets when I check my luggage. It has never been taken and I have never had anything said to me.

05-08-2009, 08:12 AM

I put 2 torch lighters in the Zippo air case in my checked baggage and had no problems.

Texan in Mexico · 05-08-2009, 08:23 AM

Im not sure if this is an outdated thread yet but it is interesting due to the subject matter.

The law is very clear - not allowed. For those of us that travel alot we take the risk as an acceptable risk and know it is a toss up either way and depends upon the thoroughness of the inspectors.

If it is a lighter that will cause you heartbreak if taken away, do not take it.

Safe travels.

JJG · 05-08-2009, 08:58 AM

I don't know about torch lighters but I was able to take a bic with me in my pocket from Houston to Pennsylvania last week. It might be safer in your checked luggage?

bottom line, if you're worried about losing it, leave it at home.

Stick · 05-08-2009, 09:07 AM

Here are the pertinent regulations from the TSA website:

"Common Lighters - Lighters without fuel are permitted in checked baggage. Lighters with fuel are prohibited in checked baggage, unless they adhere to the Department of Transportation (DOT) exemption, which allows up to two fueled lighters if properly enclosed in a DOT approved case. If you are uncertain as to whether your lighter is prohibited, please leave it at home.

Torch Lighters - Torch lighters create a thin, needle-like flame that is hotter (reaching 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit) and more intense than those from common lighters. Torch lighters are often used for pipes and cigars, and maintain a consistent stream of air-propelled fire regardless of the angle at which it is held. Torch lighters continue to be banned.

Strike-anywhere Matches - One book of safety (non-strike anywhere) matches are permitted as carry-on items, but all matches are prohibited in checked baggage."

Also: "As of August 4, 2007, in an effort to concentrate resources on detecting explosive threats, TSA will no longer ban common lighters in carry-on luggage. Torch lighters remain banned in carry-ons."

jledou · 05-08-2009, 09:25 AM

When I flew to Korea the cheap bic type lighters that I took with me were not questioned anywhere along the line.

05-08-2009, 09:28 AM

My bags were searched by the TSA and they did not take my lighters. I do agree that I would not take expensive lighters on the plane.

mosesbotbol · 05-08-2009, 10:04 AM

Been BICing it since 9/11 when traveling, or just buy a lighter at the destination.

J-Man · 05-08-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coz77

Keep your lighters at home...I'd buy a BIC at a local gas station and call it a day.

I don't want to risk losing one of my good ones.

05-10-2009, 12:57 PM

I take one of those acrylic humidors (jars) and place my Ronson right in the middle of all the cigars where you can't see the lighter,,,just the cigars surrounding it. A few times they take the jar out and look at it and then put it back as all they see is a full jar of cigars. If they confiscate the lighter no biggy,,,I still have a dozen of them and they are only $3.

05-10-2009, 01:54 PM

For me the hardest thing to remember is not to take a lighter in my pocket to the airport. I've been carrying one forever so I automatically put one in my pocket without even thinking about it. I usually remember that I have it when I am about to go through the metal detector.

What determines a "torch lighter" is left up to interpretation by the individual TSA employees you encounter. Some think any lighter is a torch others could care less. The best thing to do is just purchase a cheap one when you arrive and put it in your checked luggage on the trip back.

Beagleone · 05-10-2009, 09:40 PM

Just flew in and out of Detroit with my Xikar in the Tranzpack TSA approved case with no problems whatsoever. I usually print a copy of the regs and place them into the checked bag with the area highlighted areas. Never had a problem before, don't expect any to come when I head to Milwaukee this week.

wshan · 05-10-2009, 11:47 PM

If they still confiscate something out of a tsa approved case, are you pretty much sol'd?

04-16-2009, 07:09 PM	#1
Raralith Death to the Unbelievers Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 475 Trading: (24)	Lighters and Flying I'm going to be flying to NYC in a bit, and I was wondering if anyone has any person experiences with bringing a light (Ronson)? Can I leave it on my bag, and check it in? Or would it be better to just buy matches when I arrive or another cheap butane lighter?

04-16-2009, 08:45 PM	#2
TXRebel Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Cary Location: Texas Posts: 1,276 Trading: (12)	Re: Lighters and Flying As per the TSA (Tear Sh!t Apart) Regs no torch lighters carry-on or checked. Purchase a cheap lighter at your destination. __________________ "The government turns every contingency into an excuse for enhancing power in itself."

04-16-2009, 09:10 PM	#3
Les Nessman Still Watching My Back Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Randy Location: Astoria Posts: 65 Trading: (7)	Re: Lighters and Flying I'm in NYC, you can find a Ronson Jetlite at CVS stores for around $4.

04-17-2009, 08:00 AM	#5
Coz77 Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: NY Posts: 307 Trading: (1)	Re: Lighters and Flying Keep your lighters at home...I'd buy a BIC at a local gas station and call it a day.

04-17-2009, 08:59 AM	#7
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,901 Trading: (6)	Re: Lighters and Flying While you can't fly with a torch, you can with a soft flame butane lighter (at least at the moment - they change the rules fairly often). I just carry a cheap Bic type lighter when I fly. I toss it in my carry on and haven't had a problem yet. If some TSA person did take it, I'm not out anything. Not as nice as a torch, but they do the trick just fine.

04-17-2009, 09:56 AM	#8
IBQTEE1 Crazy K Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Kristin Location: Here and there Posts: 2,563 Trading: (6)	Re: Lighters and Flying I put my torch lighters in one of my jean pockets when I check my luggage. It has never been taken and I have never had anything said to me. __________________ It's a Good Day to Smoke a Cigar!!!

05-08-2009, 08:12 AM	#9
newlifetaxidermy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lighters and Flying I put 2 torch lighters in the Zippo air case in my checked baggage and had no problems.

05-08-2009, 08:23 AM	#10
Texan in Mexico Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Travis Location: Puerto Morelos, Mexico Posts: 958 Trading: (0)	Re: Lighters and Flying Im not sure if this is an outdated thread yet but it is interesting due to the subject matter. The law is very clear - not allowed. For those of us that travel alot we take the risk as an acceptable risk and know it is a toss up either way and depends upon the thoroughness of the inspectors. If it is a lighter that will cause you heartbreak if taken away, do not take it. Safe travels.

05-08-2009, 08:58 AM	#11
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Lighters and Flying I don't know about torch lighters but I was able to take a bic with me in my pocket from Houston to Pennsylvania last week. It might be safer in your checked luggage? bottom line, if you're worried about losing it, leave it at home.

05-08-2009, 09:07 AM	#12
Stick Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: David Location: The Forest City Posts: 407 Trading: (14)	Re: Lighters and Flying Here are the pertinent regulations from the TSA website: "Common Lighters - Lighters without fuel are permitted in checked baggage. Lighters with fuel are prohibited in checked baggage, unless they adhere to the Department of Transportation (DOT) exemption, which allows up to two fueled lighters if properly enclosed in a DOT approved case. If you are uncertain as to whether your lighter is prohibited, please leave it at home. Torch Lighters - Torch lighters create a thin, needle-like flame that is hotter (reaching 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit) and more intense than those from common lighters. Torch lighters are often used for pipes and cigars, and maintain a consistent stream of air-propelled fire regardless of the angle at which it is held. Torch lighters continue to be banned. Strike-anywhere Matches - One book of safety (non-strike anywhere) matches are permitted as carry-on items, but all matches are prohibited in checked baggage." Also: "As of August 4, 2007, in an effort to concentrate resources on detecting explosive threats, TSA will no longer ban common lighters in carry-on luggage. Torch lighters remain banned in carry-ons."

05-08-2009, 09:25 AM	#13
jledou Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Jay Location: Kansas Posts: 2,225 Trading: (27)	Re: Lighters and Flying When I flew to Korea the cheap bic type lighters that I took with me were not questioned anywhere along the line.

05-08-2009, 09:28 AM	#14
newlifetaxidermy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lighters and Flying My bags were searched by the TSA and they did not take my lighters. I do agree that I would not take expensive lighters on the plane.

05-08-2009, 10:04 AM	#15
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Lighters and Flying Been BICing it since 9/11 when traveling, or just buy a lighter at the destination. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

05-10-2009, 12:57 PM	#17
Cigary Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lighters and Flying I take one of those acrylic humidors (jars) and place my Ronson right in the middle of all the cigars where you can't see the lighter,,,just the cigars surrounding it. A few times they take the jar out and look at it and then put it back as all they see is a full jar of cigars. If they confiscate the lighter no biggy,,,I still have a dozen of them and they are only $3.

05-10-2009, 01:54 PM	#18
robofan Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Lighters and Flying For me the hardest thing to remember is not to take a lighter in my pocket to the airport. I've been carrying one forever so I automatically put one in my pocket without even thinking about it. I usually remember that I have it when I am about to go through the metal detector. What determines a "torch lighter" is left up to interpretation by the individual TSA employees you encounter. Some think any lighter is a torch others could care less. The best thing to do is just purchase a cheap one when you arrive and put it in your checked luggage on the trip back.

05-10-2009, 09:40 PM	#19
Beagleone Feeling at Home Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Between here and there Posts: 832 Trading: (18)	Re: Lighters and Flying Just flew in and out of Detroit with my Xikar in the Tranzpack TSA approved case with no problems whatsoever. I usually print a copy of the regs and place them into the checked bag with the area highlighted areas. Never had a problem before, don't expect any to come when I head to Milwaukee this week. __________________ Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" didn't have gonorrhea.

05-10-2009, 11:47 PM	#20
wshan Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Wei Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 57 Trading: (0)	Re: Lighters and Flying If they still confiscate something out of a tsa approved case, are you pretty much sol'd?