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Old 10-27-2008, 09:53 AM   #1
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my understanding was that you would have the OPTION... it wasnt obligitory

but then again... i shouldnt try to understand government officials
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:55 AM   #2
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my understanding was that you would have the OPTION... it wasnt obligitory

but then again... i shouldnt try to understand government officials
If it's been proposed by (D) and we have a (D) president then the odds of something so ridiculous happening become greater. (This isn't the first time they've tried to nationalize 401ks).

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Old 10-27-2008, 09:57 AM   #3
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House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.

House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.

A plan by Teresa Ghilarducci, professor of economic-policy analysis at the New School for Social Research in New York, contains elements that are being considered. She testified last week before Miller’s Education and Labor Committee on her proposal.

At that hearing, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, Peter Orszag, testified that some $2 trillion in retirement savings has been lost over the past 15 months.

Under Ghilarducci’s plan, all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration. The money in turn would be invested in special government bonds that would pay 3 percent a year, adjusted for inflation.

The current system of providing tax breaks on 401(k) contributions and earnings would be eliminated.

This strategy didn't work so well in Argentina.
Argentina announced it was taking over the pension system to protect workers from losses this week.
This caused the Argentina market to crash 16.7 percent this week.
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Old 10-27-2008, 09:58 AM   #4
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to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.

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so i guess it is obligitory... my bad
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:33 AM   #5
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This kind of activity within our government just BURNS me!!
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:47 AM   #6
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As a small business owner, this would also kill the SEP's. I've averaged about 10 % over the last 15 year (access to a large off market employee owned company) so this would kill any plans for early retirement.
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:57 AM   #7
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If Congress controls it, Congress will raid it.
Just one more way for them to steal our money..
But then, Then know whats best for us don't they.
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