Siglo Limited Reserve

md4958 · 04-06-2009, 07:21 AM

I really dont follow where Pete Johnson is cheesy for packaging his cigars in cabinets? Most CCs are available in cabs AND dress boxes. Im really not sure how Pete Johnson got thrust into this conversation at all???

Perhaps its a marketing gimmick. But I find that most companies that NEED gimmicks, their products tend to not stack up to the competition. Tatuaje dont need to be gimmicky IMO. I think they are GREAT cigars. Full of flavor and almost always perfectly constructed.

Perhaps hes just paying homage to the the old-school way of doing things with the cabinets, and the simple (almost cheap) looking bands. After all, as somebody mentioned, these are Pepin products and I have no problem with tradition.

Maybe he just wants the cigars to speak for themselves.

Sorry to jack the OPs thread. I too saw the Siglios prominently displayed on the back of the cataloger and just shook my head.

Footbag · 04-06-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958

I really dont follow where Pete Johnson is cheesy for packaging his cigars in cabinets? Most CCs are available in cabs AND dress boxes. Im really not sure how Pete Johnson got thrust into this conversation at all???

I didn't start it, but it's probably my fault.

I just pointed out that Pete does a few things that I would consider cheesy if the cigars didn't stand on their own. Cabs, Green Labels, Factory Codes, Old Cuban Brand Names. Pete's lines are more about making cigar in the traditional Cuban way.
Best example, the triple cap. DPG does a better Triple cap then the Cubans IMO. This makes for a better cigar. Better construction and less likely to unravel. As does cab storage. So for those reasons, I can see why Pete does it.
I can also see where some sub-par brands would want to have their packaging look like Cuban packaging to stimulate sales. It probably works for a lot of people. I has seen a ton of those Dominican Cohibas before they were pulled from the market.

md4958 · 04-06-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Footbag

Best example, the triple cap. DPG does a better Triple cap then most Cubans IMO.

Agreed, with one alteration! (I try not to speak in absolutes)

The construction of Pepins cigars show the skill AND pride of the roller.

Footbag · 04-06-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958

Agreed, with one alteration!

The construction of Pepins cigars show the skill AND pride of the roller.

Totally agree, pride in ones work is the best form of quality control.

SmokinApe · 04-06-2009, 08:03 AM

I agree the triple cap = better construction...

Aside from the stuff you listed Pete also; makes RE's which is a poser thing to do IMO, has "secret" releases for cigars that aren't supposed to exist, and names cigars after boogey men... but they are DPG's so it's OK... BTW, I own and smoke more DPG than any other NC...

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Originally Posted by Footbag

I didn't start it, but it's probably my fault.

I just pointed out that Pete does a few things that I would consider cheesy if the cigars didn't stand on their own. Cabs, Green Labels, Factory Codes, Old Cuban Brand Names. Pete's lines are more about making cigar in the traditional Cuban way.
Best example, the triple cap. DPG does a better Triple cap then the Cubans IMO. This makes for a better cigar. Better construction and less likely to unravel. As does cab storage. So for those reasons, I can see why Pete does it.
I can also see where some sub-par brands would want to have their packaging look like Cuban packaging to stimulate sales. It probably works for a lot of people. I has seen a ton of those Dominican Cohibas before they were pulled from the market.

md4958 · 04-06-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe

I agree the triple cap = better construction...

Aside from the stuff you listed Pete also; makes RE's which is a poser thing to do IMO, has "secret" releases for cigars that aren't supposed to exist, and names cigars after boogey men... but they are DPG's so it's OK... BTW, I own and smoke more DPG than any other NC...

ok, that stuff above, Ive gotta admit, is unnecessary and all marketing.

I do love me some West and East costs though!

Footbag · 04-06-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by md4958

ok, that stuff above, Ive gotta admit, is unnecessary and all marketing.

I do love me some West and East costs though!

But they're tasty. DPG's and Tat's are my goto NC's as well.

rizzle · 04-08-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe

I agree the triple cap = better construction...

Aside from the stuff you listed Pete also; makes RE's which is a poser thing to do IMO, has "secret" releases for cigars that aren't supposed to exist, and names cigars after boogey men... but they are DPG's so it's OK... BTW, I own and smoke more DPG than any other NC...

But it's not a poser thing for cuban cigar maufacturers to produce an RE? Nah, no double standard at all.

I love the cc vs nc discussions and attitudes.

SmokinApe · 04-08-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rizzle

But it's not a poser thing for cuban cigar maufacturers to produce an RE? Nah, no double standard at all.

I love the cc vs nc discussions and attitudes.

CC RE's are something that is ordered from the importer. Pete decided to make his own and selectively distribute them.

rizzle · 04-08-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokinApe

CC RE's are something that is ordered from the importer. Pete decided to make his own and selectively distribute them.

Tomatoe, tomato. Accomplishes the same end result.

And I understand your point.

04-06-2009, 07:21 AM	#1
md4958 Captain Cannoli Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moe Location: Suffield, CT Posts: 5,712 Trading: (62)	Re: Siglo Limited Reserve I really dont follow where Pete Johnson is cheesy for packaging his cigars in cabinets? Most CCs are available in cabs AND dress boxes. Im really not sure how Pete Johnson got thrust into this conversation at all??? Perhaps its a marketing gimmick. But I find that most companies that NEED gimmicks, their products tend to not stack up to the competition. Tatuaje dont need to be gimmicky IMO. I think they are GREAT cigars. Full of flavor and almost always perfectly constructed. Perhaps hes just paying homage to the the old-school way of doing things with the cabinets, and the simple (almost cheap) looking bands. After all, as somebody mentioned, these are Pepin products and I have no problem with tradition. Maybe he just wants the cigars to speak for themselves. Sorry to jack the OPs thread. I too saw the Siglios prominently displayed on the back of the cataloger and just shook my head. __________________ "One fart can foul the air for everyone" - Esteemed philosopher "If avoiding the nasty $hit is being a snob, them I am guilty as charged."- Same esteemed philosopher.