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Originally Posted by macpappy

Excuse me. You are making a blanket statement which is not accurate.

I use nothing but Mac's and I have never had a compatibility issue because I am using a Mac and 90 percent of my clients use Windows-based boxes. I've never had problems doing FTP or other transfers of files between my computers and people who I am sending files to.

That being said, I am in the advertising design business and the majority of my clients aren't working with design programs. They only have to be able to open PDF's. The printing and publishing companies I work with are all Mac based companies from when the jobs hit their server (Mac Servers) until it is digitally output onto plates for the presses.

I have also never had problems sending files to my CPA or attorney and having them open the files.

Now, IF I was in another line of work, I could see where there may be compatibility issues as far as what software is being used - especially in fields such as engineering. I also agree that many software companies haven't written Mac versions of their software in the past - especially all the software companies specializing in such important software as, say, GAMES. (Okay, that was a little sarcastic.)

But my point is, that your statement is not COMPLETELY accurate.

As for the cost of a Mac as compared to a PC, I'd say you would still have to compare apples to apples (no pun intended). Two years ago, when I bought my current desktop (2.4 Gig Dual Processor G5) a friend of mine bought a new PC desktop for about a $1,000 less. He then spent another $900 on upgrades to get it comparable to what my Mac could do.

One final point on the price of the Macs being higher than PC's. A Porsche cost more than a Hyundai. If you can afford it, which you would rather drive?

First my statement wasn't 100% inclusive or exclusive. Also, I made a slight mistatement. What I meant was if you buy a MAC at some time you will most likely have some sort of compatibility issues. If an app you want isn't written for MAC, that too is a compatibility issue. File formats are one than can be annoying, but an application you want/need that isn't written for MAC is sometimes a deal-breaker.

In your line of work MACs are well embedded. That is their sweetspot (graphic design and/or desktop publishing). Adobe products used to be primarily written for MAC.

What I'm saying is MACs are the minority and deal with minority issues like compatibility, software availability, etc. You will NOT have that problem with a PC. Also, while MACs may be stronger at the sweetspots mentioned above, both can be done very similarly if not exactly the same on a PC. You'd be hard pressed to find an application written for a MAC that is not also written for a PC. The opposite is not true. There are many apps that are available for PCs that are not written for MACs. This cannot be disputed.

MACs are more expensive. While that price gap has narrowed a bit due to MAC adopting the Intel processors, the gap still exists.

I just don't understand why the average user (not graphic designer) would put themselves into that minority of their own volition. Sure there are some cool new ways to so PC stuff on a MAC but not all MAC users have that kind of savvy.

To end my rant similarly, MACs may indeed be like a Porche: Nice to look at but, expensive, impractical, and not as fast as a Corvette that costs 25% less.

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BTW, I mean no ill will in my rants. I am just debating the two and having fun. I know sometimes tone is hard to determine so I wanted to make sure no offense is taken.

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Originally Posted by 357

BTW, I mean no ill will in my rants. I am just debating the two and having fun. I know sometimes tone is hard to determine so I wanted to make sure no offense is taken.

Same here.



And sorry to the OP for jacking the crap out of your thread.

[macpappy]

Originally Posted by 357

BTW, I mean no ill will in my rants. I am just debating the two and having fun. I know sometimes tone is hard to determine so I wanted to make sure no offense is taken.

I didn't even take your previous posts for being rants so I surely didn't see or perceive any ill will.

And I almost asked which you would rather drive a Corvette or a Hyundai. My point being that both will get you from point A to point B, but one is more comfortable, faster and fun than the other.

I have used Macs since 1986 and that is because of the type of work I have done which has predominately been in the graphic design/journalism/photography world. That being said, I worked as the executive assistant for a marine insurance adjuster for two years and our entire office was Mac based - including the bookkeeper. We also dealt with law firms that were all Mac based.

[macpappy]

Originally Posted by 357

BTW, I mean no ill will in my rants. I am just debating the two and having fun. I know sometimes tone is hard to determine so I wanted to make sure no offense is taken.

BTW. Arguing whether Mac is better than a PC is like arguing which premium cigar you like better. I depends on the person.

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Three three taboos...

Politics, religion and Mac vs PC..nothing good can come from this

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Originally Posted by illinoishoosier

Three three taboos...

Politics, religion and Mac vs PC..nothing good can come from this

At least we aren't getting our paties in a bunch.




...not that I own or wear panties.

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Originally Posted by 357

At least we aren't getting our paties in a bunch.




...not that I own or wear panties.

Going commando huh?

Wow! this thread went to uncharted waters.

I been looking and messing with all kinds of computers. One that I thought was really cool and might just keep me with windows was a HP TouchSmart with 8gb ram and a 500gb HD. But the Macs are so cool! It's gonna take more reading and hands on fiddling before I buy anything. I'm using a crappy comp right now that's missing a hand full of keys and the screen is not the best.

The one that got murdered was a dell xps 1012 and for the life of me couldn't get to install SP1. I've read about Vista having problems with Mc caffe and thats what was not allowing SP1 to install so I uninstalled Mc Cafee and tried with no luck. Re installs and crashes, errors really just got me to the boiling point with everything else the dang things been doing and I guess I had to get a little steam out from me personal life on top of it. The planets were aligned and told me to kill the Dell!

No, p@rn sites were not browsed with my computers! I fear them like the plague! They are the plague.

I'm still looking. Narrowing it down to a few now.

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by macpappy

BTW. Arguing whether Mac is better than a PC is like arguing which premium cigar you like better. I depends on the person.

I agree 100% with this statement.