Gun take-aways maybe?

[DPD6030]

Wish I never sold my RRA AR-15

[AAlmeter]

There's plenty coming down the pike that many believe "would never happen here in the good ole US of A". Hell, who would have ever thought that the government would start denying medical coverage to members of our own armed forces who are injured in battle? And yet...here we are, watching as they do it.

And I second the AR15.com recommendation. I've made several purchases from their equipment exchange recently.

[cricky101]

Originally Posted by AAlmeter

There's plenty coming down the pike that many believe "would never happen here in the good ole US of A". Hell, who would have ever thought that the government would start denying medical coverage to members of our own armed forces who are injured in battle? And yet...here we are, watching as they do it.

And I second the AR15.com recommendation. I've made several purchases from their equipment exchange recently.

I don't remember seeing anything about the government denying medical coverage for members of the armed services. I did read about the government researching billing practices to bill private insurance companies when available as a way to save money instead of all claims going through VA hospitals. Nothing is happening with it, though.

[WildBlueSooner]

Originally Posted by cricky101

I don't remember seeing anything about the government denying medical coverage for members of the armed services. I did read about the government researching billing practices to bill private insurance companies when available as a way to save money instead of all claims going through VA hospitals. Nothing is happening with it, though.

Yeah...you are right, I read about straight from the DoD early bird news. I have heard so many scare tactics lately.

[AAlmeter]

Not to sidetrack an important topic, but here is one article:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/2009031..._for_treatment

I don't see this being a matter of efficiency. If I were backed over at work by a D9 dozer and my boss told me to take care of it out of my pocket, I do believe that there would be an uproar. I'm also fairly certain that there would be an uproar if the average medicaid patient were denied. Yet they contribute very little to society...especially in comparison to our service members.

[WildBlueSooner]

Originally Posted by AAlmeter

Not to sidetrack an important topic, but here is one article:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/2009031..._for_treatment

I don't see this being a matter of efficiency. If I were backed over at work by a D9 dozer and my boss told me to take care of it out of my pocket, I do believe that there would be an uproar. I'm also fairly certain that there would be an uproar if the average medicaid patient were denied. Yet they contribute very little to society...especially in comparison to our service members.

"private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries". You would not pay for it out of your pocket...you insurance would, just like it normally would if you were hurt! But as a democratic senator said this idea was "dead on arrival." It was an idea that was being looked into!

[AAlmeter]

Originally Posted by WildBlueSooner

"private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries". You would not pay for it out of your pocket...you insurance would, just like it normally would if you were hurt! But as a democratic senator said this idea was "dead on arrival." It was an idea that was being looked into!

Again, I'd rather not sidetrack this thread.

Perhaps its just me, but I do not see how this could possibly work out for the benefit of anyone except the federal government. I am, generally, 100% in favor of privatizing anything possible.

The problem we have, however, is that these veterans WILL face discrimination when obtaining health insurance. Its convenient to write it off as the liability of evil insurance companies or even evil employers, but many people have a great deal of trouble getting health insurance...not because of evil capitalism or poor health or anything of the like. I am one of them, it simply was not available for anyone in my income range and location, regardless of price. Opening any veteran up to the possibility of becoming a "liability" to an employer or insurer because of their service is sick, regardless of which side of the political spectrum (if there is one anymore) one may be on.

There are plenty of ways for the federal government to save money. Cheaping out on veterans' benefits is not one that I will ever support.

[cricky101]

Originally Posted by AAlmeter

Not to sidetrack an important topic, but here is one article:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/2009031..._for_treatment

I don't see this being a matter of efficiency. If I were backed over at work by a D9 dozer and my boss told me to take care of it out of my pocket, I do believe that there would be an uproar. I'm also fairly certain that there would be an uproar if the average medicaid patient were denied. Yet they contribute very little to society...especially in comparison to our service members.

Here's another article - (not an op-ed piece). Irrelevant now anyway, I guess. Nothing is happening. Groups spoke out against it, and the proposal is no more. That's how it should work
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/...ref=newssearch

[WildBlueSooner]

Originally Posted by cricky101

Here's another article - (not an op-ed piece). Irrelevant now anyway, I guess. Nothing is happening. Groups spoke out against it, and the proposal is no more. That's how it should work
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/...ref=newssearch

Something actually worked like it was supposed to. Of course it was a dumb idea in the first place!