stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet

03-06-2009, 10:49 PM

OK. I spoke with Eddie Ortega of 601 Cigars tonight at my cigar lounge and his perspective on this subject was very interesting.

He said his cigars are all the same, but his reasoning for the local being better is not the aging at the B&M, but the storage at the big internet guys. he said while they do have humidified warehouses etc. they are stored in their boxes and celo wrapped which isn't the best for cigars.

Now 601 is a smaller producer of cigars and the reports I got were from some larger cigar makers, So when I go to Nicaragua in May I'll ask Don Pepin about his. So for now I am have some egg on my face.

icehog3 · 03-06-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Legend

OK. I spoke with Eddie Ortega of 601 Cigars tonight at my cigar lounge and his perspective on this subject was very interesting.

He said his cigars are all the same, but his reasoning for the local being better is not the aging at the B&M, but the storage at the big internet guys. he said while they do have humidified warehouses etc. they are stored in their boxes and celo wrapped which isn't the best for cigars.

Now 601 is a smaller producer of cigars and the reports I got were from some larger cigar makers, So when I go to Nicaragua in May I'll ask Don Pepin about his. So for now I am have some egg on my face.

A little egg never hurt anyone.

03-07-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

A little egg never hurt anyone.

I like eggs

03-07-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFox

I like eggs

From the local grocer or Costco?

shvictor · 03-07-2009, 04:43 PM

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I like eggs

I like my eggs over medium...I love the runny yolk

G G · 03-07-2009, 04:45 PM

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I like my eggs over medium...I love the runny yolk

03-07-2009, 04:55 PM

I'm an over easy fella myself. Like the yolk very runny and mix it up with my hashbrowns.

Love it with rye toast and sausage. Throw some peppers. Onions and garlic on the hashbrowns and we are doing awesome.

Ok. Sorry. Don't post hungry.

Starscream · 03-07-2009, 06:04 PM

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I'm an over easy fella myself. Like the yolk very runny and mix it up with my hashbrowns.

Try eggs over easy mixed w/ grits and sausage. A lot better than mixing it up w/ hashbrowns.

Col. Kurtz · 03-07-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Legend

OK. I spoke with Eddie Ortega of 601 Cigars tonight at my cigar lounge and his perspective on this subject was very interesting.

He said his cigars are all the same, but his reasoning for the local being better is not the aging at the B&M, but the storage at the big internet guys. he said while they do have humidified warehouses etc. they are stored in their boxes and celo wrapped which isn't the best for cigars.

Now 601 is a smaller producer of cigars and the reports I got were from some larger cigar makers, So when I go to Nicaragua in May I'll ask Don Pepin about his. So for now I am have some egg on my face.

I guess I need to take all my boxes out of the coolerdor and strip the sticks down? What did he recommend for storage?
Isn't the 601 made in Don Pepin's factory?

BTW, I don't think I'd ask Pepin Garcia this question.

03-10-2009, 08:37 AM

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BTW, I don't think I'd ask Pepin Garcia this question.

Why not? I can't imagine it going so badly.

"Mr. Garcia, we've noticed that many times the cigars from our lounge are better than ones we buy online from the big guys. Is there a difference?"

"you and the rest of you bastards from your lounge down here to tour my factory get out. I can't believe you would ask such a question" followed by ranting and rambling in Spanish.

Nope. I don't see it. What's the harm?

SeanGAR · 03-11-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Legend

Why not? I can't imagine it going so badly.

Nope. I don't see it. What's the harm?

The question would probably make him laugh so hard he could injure himself.

taltos · 03-11-2009, 07:10 AM

Think about it this way, you are a guest in Pepin's facility and you ask him a question that implies that he compromises his standards in order to sell to large accounts. How would any rational person react?

03-11-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Think about it this way, you are a guest in Pepin's facility and you ask him a question that implies that he compromises his standards in order to sell to large accounts. How would any rational person react?

Probably like the kid in your avatar.

D_A · 03-11-2009, 07:18 AM

Pepin takes pride in the quality of the product he releases. I think to go into his factory and toss out some absurd accusation that he is intentionally lowering his quality standards for certain clients would be an insult to him.

03-11-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by taltos

Think about it this way, you are a guest in Pepin's facility and you ask him a question that implies that he compromises his standards in order to sell to large accounts. How would any rational person react?

I'm not implying that he compromises standards.

Again. If you are a farmer and even though all of your tomatoes are good. You give the select ones to those customers you now would be a pain. Who you want to keep in business because they are a good chunk of your base. No standards are compromised

I don't know how many different ways I can say it. I apologize if I gave the wrong impression in prior wording. We are not talking about big differences.

Besides. When I asked Eddie Ortega he was not offended.

chippewastud79 · 03-11-2009, 08:05 AM

How could they be different cigars if nothing has been compromised? Still not sure how you are going to make cigars differently without making them different blends to be different cigars. Unless you and your B+M are the only people in the world with a palate so refined you can taste the differences so subtle in the same cigars.

Smokin Gator · 03-11-2009, 08:10 AM

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Again. If you are a farmer and even though all of your tomatoes are good...

SeanGAR · 03-11-2009, 08:15 AM

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Who you want to keep in business because they are a good chunk of your base.

You are suggesting that any B&M is a bigger account than any of the big online retailers that sell DPG?

Bzzzzztt

Sorry, that didn't pass the laugh test.

03-11-2009, 09:29 AM

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I'm not implying that he compromises standards.

Again. If you are a farmer and even though all of your tomatoes are good. You give the select ones to those customers you now would be a pain. Who you want to keep in business because they are a good chunk of your base. No standards are compromised

I don't know how many different ways I can say it. I apologize if I gave the wrong impression in prior wording. We are not talking about big differences.

Besides. When I asked Eddie Ortega he was not offended.

Uh huh cuz I see tomato farmers hand sorting by destination all the time

03-11-2009, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Legend

Why not? I can't imagine it going so badly.

"Mr. Garcia, we've noticed that many times the cigars from our lounge are better than ones we buy online from the big guys. Is there a difference?"

Ranting and rambling in Spanish as a response.

Nope. I don't see it. What's the harm?

Fixed.

Don Pepin speaks no english. I've met with him twice once with Pete Johnson and Once with the head of 5 Vegas both times required someone to translate for me.

03-06-2009, 10:49 PM	#1
Legend Guest Posts: n/a	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet OK. I spoke with Eddie Ortega of 601 Cigars tonight at my cigar lounge and his perspective on this subject was very interesting. He said his cigars are all the same, but his reasoning for the local being better is not the aging at the B&M, but the storage at the big internet guys. he said while they do have humidified warehouses etc. they are stored in their boxes and celo wrapped which isn't the best for cigars. Now 601 is a smaller producer of cigars and the reports I got were from some larger cigar makers, So when I go to Nicaragua in May I'll ask Don Pepin about his. So for now I am have some egg on my face.

03-07-2009, 04:55 PM	#7
Legend Guest Posts: n/a	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet I'm an over easy fella myself. Like the yolk very runny and mix it up with my hashbrowns. Love it with rye toast and sausage. Throw some peppers. Onions and garlic on the hashbrowns and we are doing awesome. Ok. Sorry. Don't post hungry.

03-11-2009, 07:10 AM	#12
taltos Really, really old Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Paul Location: Saugus, MA Posts: 2,486 Trading: (3)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet Think about it this way, you are a guest in Pepin's facility and you ask him a question that implies that he compromises his standards in order to sell to large accounts. How would any rational person react? __________________ Jimmy, some of its magic, some of its tragic, but I had a good life all the way. He Went to Paris, J. Buffett

03-11-2009, 07:18 AM	#14
D_A Dave's not here Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: David Location: NC Posts: 272 Trading: (7)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet Pepin takes pride in the quality of the product he releases. I think to go into his factory and toss out some absurd accusation that he is intentionally lowering his quality standards for certain clients would be an insult to him.

03-11-2009, 08:05 AM	#16
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: stirring the pot local B&M vs big internet How could they be different cigars if nothing has been compromised? Still not sure how you are going to make cigars differently without making them different blends to be different cigars. Unless you and your B+M are the only people in the world with a palate so refined you can taste the differences so subtle in the same cigars. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.