Vino Temp 102

[s15driftking]

Ok,

Here's a question to the Vino-gods.

I have a cigar oasis on the very bottom of my vino and it keeps the thing well humidified... welll it's now too much humidity in a sense.

Here's the problem. i have two salt tested same-brand hygros and one is on the bottom and the other is o the top shelf. The one on the bottom reads 65% and the one on top reads 74% (respectively)....

My question is.. how do i even that out? Should i buy an oust fan to circulate the air? will the oust fan do the job? Should i put the fan up top where its very humid or down low where its right at 65?

What should i do?

[Parshooter]

Originally Posted by s15driftking

Here's the problem. i have two salt tested same-brand hygros and one is on the bottom and the other is o the top shelf. The one on the bottom reads 65% and the one on top reads 74% (respectively)....

What should i do?

That's strange. I've always believed that humidity will fall, therefore the bottom should have more humidity than the top. Check your cigars. Do the cigars at the top level feel the same as the ones on the bottom? Maybe you should invest in a nice digital hygrometer as well.

[Prospector]

Originally Posted by s15driftking

Ok,

Here's the problem. i have two salt tested same-brand hygros and one is on the bottom and the other is o the top shelf. The one on the bottom reads 65% and the one on top reads 74% (respectively)....

Have you tried swapping the two hygros, just as a sanity check on their operation? It would be interesting to see how they read then.

[s15driftking]

Originally Posted by Parshooter

That's strange. I've always believed that humidity will fall, therefore the bottom should have more humidity than the top. Check your cigars. Do the cigars at the top level feel the same as the ones on the bottom? Maybe you should invest in a nice digital hygrometer as well.

there is more humidty on top, and the cigars are a bit softer up top when i do the squeeze test. i should have also mentioned that both hygros are digital.

Originally Posted by Prospector

Have you tried swapping the two hygros, just as a sanity check on their operation? It would be interesting to see how they read then.

yes, i have done this and they (respectively) tell me that there is mroe humidity on top.


Rarilith, i appreciate your advice on the beads but i'm not ready to go that route.

My basic question to everyone who is trying to help is this... Will the RH even out top-to-bottom if i get some circulation going in there? shoudl i put the fan up high or down low.

I've used beads and other types of passive humidification which didn't produce what i wanted and as of right now i'm never looking back.

[Prospector]

Originally Posted by s15driftking

My basic question to everyone who is trying to help is this... Will the RH even out top-to-bottom if i get some circulation going in there? shoudl i put the fan up high or down low.

It should. Getting some circulation going in there should induce mixing and eliminate the humidity stratification that you are seeing. Theoretically it shouldn't really matter where the fan is placed as long as it induces mixing of the entire volume.

caveat: I can't speak from any experience as I don't yet have a vino.

[fatboy05]

Love my VT
if your looking for the most realible place to keep your stash this is it

Beads, set it and forget it.
Mine stays at 65 Deg and 68-70 Hum.

I did plug my drain and recycle the the water back into the beads

[Raralith]

Rarilith, i appreciate your advice on the beads but i'm not ready to go that route.

My basic question to everyone who is trying to help is this... Will the RH even out top-to-bottom if i get some circulation going in there? shoudl i put the fan up high or down low.

I've used beads and other types of passive humidification which didn't produce what i wanted and as of right now i'm never looking back.

Air circulation is not the best route, especially if you are aging cigars. Air circulation creates more fermentation which speeds up aging, but the cigars do not age as beautifully. This is why dress boxes aged faster than SLB/cab's, but cigars in cab's aged much better in the long run - less air circulation, less air flow. This isn't a problem if you are smoking NC's, and not aging the NC's either. But this, in my opinion, is not a good route for aging sticks.

But you should look back at passive humidification, many people on these forums use it and there's a good reason why.

To answer your question specificly though, yes the RH should balance out if you use fans. It doesn't matter which way you point (up or down, high or low) the fans either because within a few hours there would be enough air circulation to cover the Vino. Make sure that your drain is plugged though.

[s15driftking]

Originally Posted by Raralith

Make sure that your drain is plugged though.

School me on why the drain must be plugged? thanks

[white_s2k]

Originally Posted by s15driftking

School me on why the drain must be plugged? thanks

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8235

[zmancbr]

Originally Posted by white_s2k

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8235

You were quicker than I was lol... that was the thread I was looking for.

[Raralith]

Originally Posted by s15driftking

School me on why the drain must be plugged? thanks

Well, if you didn't have it plugged, I'm fairly certain that's the reason. I'd check the pan too on the bottom; my guess it has water in it.

[DPD6030]

Originally Posted by s15driftking

there is more humidty on top, and the cigars are a bit softer up top when i do the squeeze test. i should have also mentioned that both hygros are digital.




yes, i have done this and they (respectively) tell me that there is mroe humidity on top.


Rarilith, i appreciate your advice on the beads but i'm not ready to go that route.

My basic question to everyone who is trying to help is this... Will the RH even out top-to-bottom if i get some circulation going in there? shoudl i put the fan up high or down low.

I've used beads and other types of passive humidification which didn't produce what i wanted and as of right now i'm never looking back.

Bob,
I have my computer fan pointed on an angle at a 45 degree or so upward so it blows from the bottom of the vino and off the glass door up to the top. I'm always within 1-2 % from top to bottom. Oh and I have beads.

[s15driftking]

Originally Posted by DPD6030

Bob,
I have my computer fan pointed on an angle at a 45 degree or so upward so it blows from the bottom of the vino and off the glass door up to the top. I'm always within 1-2 % from top to bottom. Oh and I have beads.

Thansk for the info,

I should update all of you... it seems like the only reason i had higher humidity on top was due to a bad "tetris" situation. i moved some stuff around after i recieved chas' trays and im good all throughout.

BTW, i might add:

i never plugged my drain and i have experienced zero problems thus far... BUT, the edgestar is a bit different since the drain route starts halfway up the back instead of the bottom so any excess "water" will route itself out without being able to damage anything.

[Raralith]

Originally Posted by s15driftking

Ok,
My question is.. how do i even that out? Should i buy an oust fan to circulate the air? will the oust fan do the job? Should i put the fan up top where its very humid or down low where its right at 65?

What should i do?

Do you have anything obscuring the heatsink fan? Do you have boxes pushed directly onto it? If so, move the boxes and give it some room. The fan has holes on the front, top and bottom so air circulates in all directions. Also, is your drain plugged?

An oust fan won't do much in my opinion. The oust fan is 1-2 CFM, 3-4 if you remove the cover, and the fan in the Vino itself is much stronger. If you do want more airflow, you need to use computer fans which can be easily hooked up via a 12v adapter (found at RadioShack).

What you should do is just invest in some beads. A pound of beads split in two for top and bottom will almost always fix this problem. $30 for a lifetime of use, and passively working is probably the best thing you could buy besides a humidor for your cigars. You may like your Oasis, and paid a pretty penny for it but for a Vino, beads are the way to go.

[landhoney]

Originally Posted by s15driftking

The one on the bottom reads 65% and the one on top reads 74% (respectively)....

You don't need 'respectively' in that sentence.

[s15driftking]

Originally Posted by landhoney

You don't need 'respectively' in that sentence.

You are right. I should have said....

"the top half and bottom half are at 74% and 64%, respectively."

i believe that would be correct, sorry!