Cuba relations thawing - Page 2

pnoon · 12-17-2014, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

iPhones are perfectly legal, yet you can buy counterfeits in just about every electronics shop in Hong Kong.

Ever seen a booze rack at the store in Mexico? They even counterfeit their own tequila.

Just because something is legal doesn't mean the people will be smart enough to realize that the bargain they are getting is because what they are buying is not authentic. People will buy what is cheap, and they'll do it more freely since there would be no repercussions.

Hey Adam, Wanna buy a Rolex?

T.G · 12-17-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Hey Adam, Wanna buy a Rolex?

Remo · 12-17-2014, 02:37 PM

CA group trip to Cuba?…Epic!

AdamJoshua · 12-17-2014, 03:18 PM

"Oh I'm sure it's Cuban, the guy at the cigar place is the friend of a friend and he got it from a drawer hidden under the counter."

AdamJoshua · 12-17-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

Oh thought he was talking to me, I already have a Rolox and a Movodo!

markem · 12-17-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

People will buy what is cheap, and they'll do it more freely since there would be no repercussions.

Solafide · 12-17-2014, 03:34 PM

LoL I just heard on the news.. and the first reaction and self centered thought I instinctively had was CIGARS.

Tio Gato · 12-17-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Solafide

LoL I just heard on the news.. and the first reaction and self centered thought I instinctively had was CIGARS.

I thought of Cuban women.

bobarian · 12-17-2014, 03:49 PM

Not too concerned about cigars either way, but I have two words for you.
Legendario Elixir!

WhiteMamba · 12-17-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tio Gato

I thought of Cuban women.

you better make sure they're not fake

markem · 12-17-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

Legendario Elixir!

Fine if you bring it back, but if it is imported, expect the California prices to, well, make a trip to Cuba to buy it seem affordable.

12-17-2014, 04:19 PM

About damn time!

mosesbotbol · 12-17-2014, 04:47 PM

President needs a win to go on his legacy beyond killing Bin Laden. This is a good move as it will polarize many GOP candidates unless they join the band wagon.

Rubio does not stand a chance as becoming president right now.

Many Americans don't understand the whole embargo at this point and I am glad to see this moving forward, but some skepticism is inevitable when the government does anything.

Ashcan Bill · 12-17-2014, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Congress has a lot to say about that, and from all I've read, it won't be an easy fight.

Very true. But the new Congress will be extremely business friendly, and business stands to profit the most from the lifting of the embargo. I give it two years at the outside.

Drphilwv · 12-17-2014, 05:18 PM

I've had some Cuban rum while traveling. It was quite nice. I'm excited about the prospect of a nice box of CC being shipped to my mailbox with a half case of Havana Club

JohnRogers · 12-17-2014, 05:19 PM

The embargo has been obvious failure. The USA has a policy of changing China through engagement, yeah I kind of just rolled my eyes. Perhaps real change to Cuba can come from engagement. Raul Castro seems to hint he is open to change in Cuba. As we get excited about cigars we shouldn't forget Cuba is run by a brutal regime.

Does anybody know if human rights under Raul has been vastly improved?

mosesbotbol · 12-17-2014, 05:53 PM

I don't care much about being able to get cigars or rum as a reason to lift the embargo. Human rights and quality of life for the Cuban people are more important than scoring a box of Cohibas...

icehog3 · 12-17-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill

Very true. But the new Congress will be extremely business friendly, and business stands to profit the most from the lifting of the embargo. I give it two years at the outside.

Hmmmm....I will put up 5 Padrons to your 5 Habanos that it's not completely lifted by Dec. 17, 2016.

I'm not sure, but I think I have a decent chance to win that bet.

mosesbotbol · 12-17-2014, 07:29 PM

Funny, I was talking to the Singapore Habanos distributor the other night and he has much respect for NC's and for the obvious reasons; quality of the aged tobacco and consistent construction. Habanos smokers put up with a lot quality issues that are near non-existent on NC's. I am leaving the flavor differences out of the equation; those are personal preferences.

Line up 500 cigars; both Habanos and good NC's. How many NC's will be plugged vs. Habanos?

Ashcan Bill · 12-17-2014, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Hmmmm....I will put up 5 Padrons to your 5 Habanos that it's not completely lifted by Dec. 17, 2016.

I'm not sure, but I think I have a decent chance to win that bet.

As long as you aren't betting Gurkhas, I'll accept your gentlemanly wager. After all, I have K Street on my side.

12-17-2014, 02:37 PM	#23
Remo C.I.A Join Date: Feb 2011 First Name: Mike Location: Palm Harbor, Florida Posts: 12,597 Trading: (122)	Re: Cuba relations thawing CA group trip to Cuba?…Epic! __________________

12-17-2014, 03:18 PM	#24
AdamJoshua Article 4 Free Inhabitant Join Date: Jan 2013 First Name: The Other Adam Location: Satellite Beach Posts: 14,787 Trading: (40)	Re: Cuba relations thawing "Oh I'm sure it's Cuban, the guy at the cigar place is the friend of a friend and he got it from a drawer hidden under the counter."

12-17-2014, 03:34 PM	#27
Solafide Just in from the Storm Join Date: Aug 2014 First Name: Dustin Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 10 Trading: (0)	Re: Cuba relations thawing LoL I just heard on the news.. and the first reaction and self centered thought I instinctively had was CIGARS.

12-17-2014, 03:49 PM	#29
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Cuba relations thawing Not too concerned about cigars either way, but I have two words for you. Legendario Elixir!

12-17-2014, 04:19 PM	#32
TNT009 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Cuba relations thawing About damn time!

12-17-2014, 04:47 PM	#33
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Cuba relations thawing President needs a win to go on his legacy beyond killing Bin Laden. This is a good move as it will polarize many GOP candidates unless they join the band wagon. Rubio does not stand a chance as becoming president right now. Many Americans don't understand the whole embargo at this point and I am glad to see this moving forward, but some skepticism is inevitable when the government does anything. __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

12-17-2014, 05:18 PM	#35
Drphilwv Just in from the Storm Join Date: Jun 2013 First Name: Phil Location: West Virginia Posts: 28 Trading: (1)	Re: Cuba relations thawing I've had some Cuban rum while traveling. It was quite nice. I'm excited about the prospect of a nice box of CC being shipped to my mailbox with a half case of Havana Club

12-17-2014, 05:19 PM	#36
JohnRogers I Still Ash On My Self Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: John Location: Enid Oklahoma Posts: 214 Trading: (0)	Re: Cuba relations thawing The embargo has been obvious failure. The USA has a policy of changing China through engagement, yeah I kind of just rolled my eyes. Perhaps real change to Cuba can come from engagement. Raul Castro seems to hint he is open to change in Cuba. As we get excited about cigars we shouldn't forget Cuba is run by a brutal regime. Does anybody know if human rights under Raul has been vastly improved? __________________ Boy before the mirror checks his camouflage polishes his armor and the Charger in the garage. www.enidcigar.com

12-17-2014, 05:53 PM	#37
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Cuba relations thawing I don't care much about being able to get cigars or rum as a reason to lift the embargo. Human rights and quality of life for the Cuban people are more important than scoring a box of Cohibas... __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's

12-17-2014, 07:29 PM	#39
mosesbotbol That's a Corgi Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Moses Location: Boston Posts: 6,171 Trading: (6)	Re: Cuba relations thawing Funny, I was talking to the Singapore Habanos distributor the other night and he has much respect for NC's and for the obvious reasons; quality of the aged tobacco and consistent construction. Habanos smokers put up with a lot quality issues that are near non-existent on NC's. I am leaving the flavor differences out of the equation; those are personal preferences. Line up 500 cigars; both Habanos and good NC's. How many NC's will be plugged vs. Habanos? __________________ Port Wine & Claret \| British Cars \| Welsh Corgi's