DeBeers diamond company, thank you for the cigars

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Originally Posted by mahtofire14

Yeah that's what I heard as well. I'm just so sick of paying almost more money on taxes than the cigar itself. Not to mention the shop owners don't see any of that money.

Yeah I got into a long conversation with the owner of BURN and a TobaccoGrover about that tonight. They are happy as the higher end sticks will come down in price due to the cap which means they will sell more and they won't have to lower their retail price thus, at least in theory, profits will go up due to more bang for your buck...in theory.

The Senator is a big cigar guy so are two of his closest friends. Inge Thulin and Greg Page, CEO's of 3M and Cargill respectively.

And quiet as its kept, look for a new B&M with a large "ultra lounge" in a joint venture from BURN & TobaccoGrove coming to a Twin Cities suburb towards the end of 4th quarter 2013 to 1st quarter 2014 with a big big name sponsoring the Grand Opening weekend.

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Originally Posted by FUEL

Yeah I got into a long conversation with the owner of BURN and a TobaccoGrover about that tonight. They are happy as the higher end sticks will come down in price due to the cap which means they will sell more and they won't have to lower their retail price thus, at least in theory, profits will go up due to more bang for your buck...in theory.

The Senator is a big cigar guy so are two of his closest friends. Inge Thulin and Greg Page, CEO's of 3M and Cargill respectively.

And quiet as its kept, look for a new B&M with a large "ultra lounge" in a joint venture from BURN & TobaccoGrove coming to a Twin Cities suburb towards the end of 4th quarter 2013 to 1st quarter 2014 with a big big name sponsoring the Grand Opening weekend.

I would hope that this "ultra lounge" will be in the east metro as the other two are in the west?

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Originally Posted by mahtofire14

I would hope that this "ultra lounge" will be in the east metro as the other two are in the west?

The ultra lounge is supposedly going to be the nicest in the Twin Cities on par with the private club Fuegos and a titch less than the ultra exclusive $30,000 mandatory 10 year lease that's capped at 50 members & good luck even finding the place Herrbies.

No comment on the 3 potential locations other than one is East of 35W. Fuegos is also opening a St Paul location by the end of year with a b!tchen roof top deck similar but smaller than Seven and Crave down on Block E in Minneapolis.

Only thing that blows is the yearly membership dues went up quite a bit from 2012 to 2013 and to get reciprocity between the two the cost is going up again in 2014 unless you join at the Churchill level by the end of 2013 as then you have no additional cost between locations.