Negative Brand Bias?

Silound · 01-22-2009, 09:51 AM

Gurkha, Rolando Reyes, Victor Sinclair, Perdomo, Macanudo, Drew Estates....

I'm sure I could compile a large list if I went down a list of manufacturers.

But with the exception of Macanudo, RR, and Gurkha, I would try something from the others again if I though it had promise.

Ashcan Bill · 01-22-2009, 10:09 AM

I've never thought much of cigars made by Nestor Plasencia. This is a personal bias going back to the mid nineties, when I bought a number of his cigars and came to the conclusion they were both tasteless and poorly constructed. Granted, back then a vast number of the boutique cigars put out fell into this category, but I thought his were among the worse.

Whatever he's making today may or may not be better, but I have no desire to find out.

borndead1 · 01-22-2009, 10:19 AM

CAO, Fuente, Gurkha

I will TRY just about any cigar from any cigar maker. But there are certain brands I just won't shell out money for.

bobarian · 01-22-2009, 10:36 AM

No bias for me. I am willing to try just about any premium makers new blends. I may not buy smokes from George Rico, RP or K Hansotia, but I am always willing to give one a shot if recommended by a friend.

tedrodgerscpa · 01-22-2009, 10:54 AM

Marcas I always assume are 'not for me'...

CAO, Ghurka, Macanudo (although I broke my rule and smoked a 1968), DR Cohiba, DR RyJ, Playboy (heck, most Altadis stuff)...

01-22-2009, 11:01 AM

I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

landhoney · 01-22-2009, 11:11 AM

Not exactly the question, but I hate companies copying the Cuban brands/bands. Like LGC, aren't you well known enough know that you don't have to copy the Cuban labels? I don't buy many NC's nowadays, but I really don't buy these.

Scottw · 01-22-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Steelergar

I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

RP Decade is tasty. Philip Gregorio and Drew Estates are probably 2 I stay away from.

01-22-2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steelergar

I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

I'll second that!

Can't wait to try another one!

Pat1075 · 01-22-2009, 11:37 AM

Rocky Patel I'll still give it a fair shot when a new one comes into the shop (or at least try to). I just don't like it.
I used to be this way with CAO and it was really hard for me to get over I thought they were all flash and no go for a few years. But this new LX2 blew me away. I got about halfway through the stick grabbed my staff pick of the month thing from the cubao and put it right onto it. I just tried the America reverse wrapped perfecto from the sampler pack yesterday and it was phenomenal. But I used to just see CAO and refuse to even try it.

bobarian · 01-22-2009, 12:32 PM

Cigars to change you mind.(Or at least open you to the possibilities)

CAO-Extreme, Waiting to try the LX2
RP-Edge Sumatra
Macanudo-1968
Gurkha-Shaggy

Neither the 1968 nor the Shaggy are great smokes, but they are different enough from the regular line to merit a try if the humi is empty.

tsolomon · 01-22-2009, 12:47 PM

Perdomo, they dry my mouth out and leave a soapy taste. It didn't help when the Perdomo rep gave me a hard time about not liking them during an event at the local B&M awhile back. I'm still trying to find a RP to like, so they are on the list.

01-22-2009, 12:55 PM

I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them. I can count the number of Gurkahs I have had on one hand and did not care for them at all, so I really cant slag them that badly. but please can we toss Torano under the bus?

Agent11br · 01-22-2009, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killjoy

I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them.

x2

that and R&J's...

I'm surprised to see so many CAO's but it's understandable, I've never been a huge fan but have only had a few.

I honestly thought this was going to be a Drew Estate bash fest...

01-22-2009, 03:13 PM

Perdomo
Avalon
Nub

JJG · 01-22-2009, 03:29 PM

I can't stand CAO's futuristic bands/logos and as a result I'm negatively biased towards everything they put out.

lets see, what else..

this guy just looks like he's saying "my cigars are really shitty"

Snake Hips · 01-22-2009, 06:51 PM

Drew Estates and CAO for me. I don't know why, either. I always think I'd like to at least explore these brands a little, but I can't bring myself to buy anything with their names on them. I also have an aversion to Rocky Patel. I haven't bought one, let alone smoked one, in a long, long time.

brigey57 · 01-23-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Hips

Drew Estates and CAO for me. I don't know why, either. I always think I'd like to at least explore these brands a little, but I can't bring myself to buy anything with their names on them. I also have an aversion to Rocky Patel. I haven't bought one, let alone smoked one, in a long, long time.

I'll totally agree with you on the Drew Estates. I can't get with the herbal infused stuff. If I want to smoke a tea bag then I go to the cupboard and smoke one. CAO has some that I like MX2 maduro just to name one.

omowasu · 01-23-2009, 11:29 PM

Acid - every one I have had has missed the mark in a big way
NC Cohiba - they just dont come anywhere near the mark of their counterparts
Any brand sold in a drugstore!

01-22-2009, 09:51 AM	#1
Silound ex-CS Swamp Gorilla Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere in a swamp, south of sanity Posts: 802 Trading: (15)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Gurkha, Rolando Reyes, Victor Sinclair, Perdomo, Macanudo, Drew Estates.... I'm sure I could compile a large list if I went down a list of manufacturers. But with the exception of Macanudo, RR, and Gurkha, I would try something from the others again if I though it had promise. __________________ Back in black, and better than ever! You can't keep a good gorilla down! LSU Geaux Tigers!

01-22-2009, 10:09 AM	#2
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,903 Trading: (6)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I've never thought much of cigars made by Nestor Plasencia. This is a personal bias going back to the mid nineties, when I bought a number of his cigars and came to the conclusion they were both tasteless and poorly constructed. Granted, back then a vast number of the boutique cigars put out fell into this category, but I thought his were among the worse. Whatever he's making today may or may not be better, but I have no desire to find out.

01-22-2009, 10:19 AM	#3
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,377 Trading: (7)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? CAO, Fuente, Gurkha I will TRY just about any cigar from any cigar maker. But there are certain brands I just won't shell out money for.

01-22-2009, 10:36 AM	#4
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? No bias for me. I am willing to try just about any premium makers new blends. I may not buy smokes from George Rico, RP or K Hansotia, but I am always willing to give one a shot if recommended by a friend.

01-22-2009, 10:54 AM	#5
tedrodgerscpa Palmetto State Herf Crew! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ted Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,712 Trading: (87)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Marcas I always assume are 'not for me'... CAO, Ghurka, Macanudo (although I broke my rule and smoked a 1968), DR Cohiba, DR RyJ, Playboy (heck, most Altadis stuff)... __________________ Everyday I'm shufflin...

01-22-2009, 11:01 AM	#6
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

01-22-2009, 11:11 AM	#7
landhoney Mr. Charisma Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Seth Location: In the forest Posts: 2,639 Trading: (32)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Not exactly the question, but I hate companies copying the Cuban brands/bands. Like LGC, aren't you well known enough know that you don't have to copy the Cuban labels? I don't buy many NC's nowadays, but I really don't buy these.

01-22-2009, 11:37 AM	#10
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Rocky Patel I'll still give it a fair shot when a new one comes into the shop (or at least try to). I just don't like it. I used to be this way with CAO and it was really hard for me to get over I thought they were all flash and no go for a few years. But this new LX2 blew me away. I got about halfway through the stick grabbed my staff pick of the month thing from the cubao and put it right onto it. I just tried the America reverse wrapped perfecto from the sampler pack yesterday and it was phenomenal. But I used to just see CAO and refuse to even try it.

01-22-2009, 12:32 PM	#11
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Cigars to change you mind.(Or at least open you to the possibilities) CAO-Extreme, Waiting to try the LX2 RP-Edge Sumatra Macanudo-1968 Gurkha-Shaggy Neither the 1968 nor the Shaggy are great smokes, but they are different enough from the regular line to merit a try if the humi is empty.

01-22-2009, 12:47 PM	#12
tsolomon Have My Own Room Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 1,251 Trading: (31)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Perdomo, they dry my mouth out and leave a soapy taste. It didn't help when the Perdomo rep gave me a hard time about not liking them during an event at the local B&M awhile back. I'm still trying to find a RP to like, so they are on the list.

01-22-2009, 12:55 PM	#13
Killjoy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them. I can count the number of Gurkahs I have had on one hand and did not care for them at all, so I really cant slag them that badly. but please can we toss Torano under the bus?

01-22-2009, 03:13 PM	#15
hurricane6 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Perdomo Avalon Nub

01-22-2009, 03:29 PM	#16
JJG Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Jeff Location: Houston Posts: 1,260 Trading: (4)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I can't stand CAO's futuristic bands/logos and as a result I'm negatively biased towards everything they put out. lets see, what else.. this guy just looks like he's saying "my cigars are really shitty" Last edited by JJG; 01-22-2009 at 03:40 PM.

01-22-2009, 06:51 PM	#17
Snake Hips Götterdämmerung Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Tyler Location: Directly above the center of the Earth Posts: 1,013 Trading: (10)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Drew Estates and CAO for me. I don't know why, either. I always think I'd like to at least explore these brands a little, but I can't bring myself to buy anything with their names on them. I also have an aversion to Rocky Patel. I haven't bought one, let alone smoked one, in a long, long time.

01-23-2009, 11:29 PM	#19
omowasu Fell ROTT Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Scott II Location: Chicago Posts: 288 Trading: (3)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Acid - every one I have had has missed the mark in a big way NC Cohiba - they just dont come anywhere near the mark of their counterparts Any brand sold in a drugstore!