Negative Brand Bias?

Padron42 · 01-22-2009, 09:43 AM

I'd have to go with RP and Gurkha. I used to like them both too, but similar to what ucla said, i really kind of get a sick feeling thinking of them, I don't really know why. I do still love the Edge though, so not all RP's...but all of them but the OWR's and Edge.

ActionAndy · 01-22-2009, 09:47 AM

A friend gave me an Eileen's Dream and I thought it was pretty decent (I don't mind that kind of thing) but the first thing that came to mind was CAO. There's just somethig about their label that makes me think it's an inferior product. I haven't actually heard anything bad about them I just have no attraction to the brand at all.

Silound · 01-22-2009, 09:51 AM

Gurkha, Rolando Reyes, Victor Sinclair, Perdomo, Macanudo, Drew Estates....

I'm sure I could compile a large list if I went down a list of manufacturers.

But with the exception of Macanudo, RR, and Gurkha, I would try something from the others again if I though it had promise.

Ashcan Bill · 01-22-2009, 10:09 AM

I've never thought much of cigars made by Nestor Plasencia. This is a personal bias going back to the mid nineties, when I bought a number of his cigars and came to the conclusion they were both tasteless and poorly constructed. Granted, back then a vast number of the boutique cigars put out fell into this category, but I thought his were among the worse.

Whatever he's making today may or may not be better, but I have no desire to find out.

borndead1 · 01-22-2009, 10:19 AM

CAO, Fuente, Gurkha

I will TRY just about any cigar from any cigar maker. But there are certain brands I just won't shell out money for.

bobarian · 01-22-2009, 10:36 AM

No bias for me. I am willing to try just about any premium makers new blends. I may not buy smokes from George Rico, RP or K Hansotia, but I am always willing to give one a shot if recommended by a friend.

tedrodgerscpa · 01-22-2009, 10:54 AM

Marcas I always assume are 'not for me'...

CAO, Ghurka, Macanudo (although I broke my rule and smoked a 1968), DR Cohiba, DR RyJ, Playboy (heck, most Altadis stuff)...

01-22-2009, 11:01 AM

I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

Pat1075 · 01-22-2009, 11:37 AM

Rocky Patel I'll still give it a fair shot when a new one comes into the shop (or at least try to). I just don't like it.
I used to be this way with CAO and it was really hard for me to get over I thought they were all flash and no go for a few years. But this new LX2 blew me away. I got about halfway through the stick grabbed my staff pick of the month thing from the cubao and put it right onto it. I just tried the America reverse wrapped perfecto from the sampler pack yesterday and it was phenomenal. But I used to just see CAO and refuse to even try it.

bobarian · 01-22-2009, 12:32 PM

Cigars to change you mind.(Or at least open you to the possibilities)

CAO-Extreme, Waiting to try the LX2
RP-Edge Sumatra
Macanudo-1968
Gurkha-Shaggy

Neither the 1968 nor the Shaggy are great smokes, but they are different enough from the regular line to merit a try if the humi is empty.

01-22-2009, 12:55 PM

I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them. I can count the number of Gurkahs I have had on one hand and did not care for them at all, so I really cant slag them that badly. but please can we toss Torano under the bus?

Agent11br · 01-22-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Killjoy

I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them.

x2

that and R&J's...

I'm surprised to see so many CAO's but it's understandable, I've never been a huge fan but have only had a few.

I honestly thought this was going to be a Drew Estate bash fest...

Snake Hips · 01-22-2009, 06:51 PM

Drew Estates and CAO for me. I don't know why, either. I always think I'd like to at least explore these brands a little, but I can't bring myself to buy anything with their names on them. I also have an aversion to Rocky Patel. I haven't bought one, let alone smoked one, in a long, long time.

brigey57 · 01-23-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Hips

Drew Estates and CAO for me. I don't know why, either. I always think I'd like to at least explore these brands a little, but I can't bring myself to buy anything with their names on them. I also have an aversion to Rocky Patel. I haven't bought one, let alone smoked one, in a long, long time.

I'll totally agree with you on the Drew Estates. I can't get with the herbal infused stuff. If I want to smoke a tea bag then I go to the cupboard and smoke one. CAO has some that I like MX2 maduro just to name one.

01-22-2009, 09:43 AM	#1
Padron42 Still Watching My Back Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: North Carolina Posts: 104 Trading: (8)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I'd have to go with RP and Gurkha. I used to like them both too, but similar to what ucla said, i really kind of get a sick feeling thinking of them, I don't really know why. I do still love the Edge though, so not all RP's...but all of them but the OWR's and Edge.

01-22-2009, 09:47 AM	#2
ActionAndy Dayman, Master of Karate Join Date: Dec 2008 First Name: Andy Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 671 Trading: (7)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? A friend gave me an Eileen's Dream and I thought it was pretty decent (I don't mind that kind of thing) but the first thing that came to mind was CAO. There's just somethig about their label that makes me think it's an inferior product. I haven't actually heard anything bad about them I just have no attraction to the brand at all.

01-22-2009, 09:51 AM	#3
Silound ex-CS Swamp Gorilla Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere in a swamp, south of sanity Posts: 802 Trading: (15)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Gurkha, Rolando Reyes, Victor Sinclair, Perdomo, Macanudo, Drew Estates.... I'm sure I could compile a large list if I went down a list of manufacturers. But with the exception of Macanudo, RR, and Gurkha, I would try something from the others again if I though it had promise. __________________ Back in black, and better than ever! You can't keep a good gorilla down! LSU Geaux Tigers!

01-22-2009, 10:09 AM	#4
Ashcan Bill Ol' Dude Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bill Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 1,903 Trading: (6)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I've never thought much of cigars made by Nestor Plasencia. This is a personal bias going back to the mid nineties, when I bought a number of his cigars and came to the conclusion they were both tasteless and poorly constructed. Granted, back then a vast number of the boutique cigars put out fell into this category, but I thought his were among the worse. Whatever he's making today may or may not be better, but I have no desire to find out.

01-22-2009, 10:19 AM	#5
borndead1 Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Mark Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 1,377 Trading: (7)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? CAO, Fuente, Gurkha I will TRY just about any cigar from any cigar maker. But there are certain brands I just won't shell out money for.

01-22-2009, 10:36 AM	#6
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? No bias for me. I am willing to try just about any premium makers new blends. I may not buy smokes from George Rico, RP or K Hansotia, but I am always willing to give one a shot if recommended by a friend.

01-22-2009, 10:54 AM	#7
tedrodgerscpa Palmetto State Herf Crew! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Ted Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,712 Trading: (87)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Marcas I always assume are 'not for me'... CAO, Ghurka, Macanudo (although I broke my rule and smoked a 1968), DR Cohiba, DR RyJ, Playboy (heck, most Altadis stuff)... __________________ Everyday I'm shufflin...

01-22-2009, 11:01 AM	#8
Steelergar Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I have not been to impressed with Rocky Patel either but I got to tell you, do not pass up the RP decade, probably his best smoke in my opinion.

01-22-2009, 11:37 AM	#9
Pat1075 Feeling at Home Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Patrick Location: Lakewood, OH Posts: 755 Trading: (11)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Rocky Patel I'll still give it a fair shot when a new one comes into the shop (or at least try to). I just don't like it. I used to be this way with CAO and it was really hard for me to get over I thought they were all flash and no go for a few years. But this new LX2 blew me away. I got about halfway through the stick grabbed my staff pick of the month thing from the cubao and put it right onto it. I just tried the America reverse wrapped perfecto from the sampler pack yesterday and it was phenomenal. But I used to just see CAO and refuse to even try it.

01-22-2009, 12:32 PM	#10
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Cigars to change you mind.(Or at least open you to the possibilities) CAO-Extreme, Waiting to try the LX2 RP-Edge Sumatra Macanudo-1968 Gurkha-Shaggy Neither the 1968 nor the Shaggy are great smokes, but they are different enough from the regular line to merit a try if the humi is empty.

01-22-2009, 12:55 PM	#11
Killjoy Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Negative Brand Bias? I tend to avoid Toranos like the plague. Absolutely horrible, every one of them. I can count the number of Gurkahs I have had on one hand and did not care for them at all, so I really cant slag them that badly. but please can we toss Torano under the bus?

01-22-2009, 06:51 PM	#13
Snake Hips Götterdämmerung Join Date: Nov 2008 First Name: Tyler Location: Directly above the center of the Earth Posts: 1,013 Trading: (10)	Re: Negative Brand Bias? Drew Estates and CAO for me. I don't know why, either. I always think I'd like to at least explore these brands a little, but I can't bring myself to buy anything with their names on them. I also have an aversion to Rocky Patel. I haven't bought one, let alone smoked one, in a long, long time.