2 Big Brand Cigars Equally Unflattering

[Nelenea]

I haven't had the RP, but I do smoke 858 Nat's often. I do like them as a cheaper smoke, but the Nat wrapper is somewhat brittle compared to the Mad wrapper... Refined smoke? probably not, the 858 has a bit of an edge or young taste to me, but I do enjoy the amount of stogie for the cent I obtain with them and am able to smoke them without feeling bad )