iPhone 5

[jluck]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

The connector is supposed to have few pins than the original and will make all current iPhone gadgets obsolete.

This article shows the new connector, I am pretty sure this is done intentional, the cattle will re-spend to get all the accessories too. Even with an adapter, It will be on the phone side, Could you imagine how poorly it will fit a doc?
I had the 3gs and went to HTC, The HTC is crap. I probably will get the 5 after the price comes down a bit as I don't have any accessories for a iphone currently.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/4678...up-server-logs

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by jluck

This article shows the new connector, I am pretty sure this is done intentional, the cattle will re-spend to get all the accessories too. Even with an adapter, It will be on the phone side, Could you imagine how poorly it will fit a doc?

Yup, Apple fans are suckers with open wallets.

[GreekGodX]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Yup, Apple fans are suckers with open wallets.

Come on Moses.. I love apple products and I'm not buying everything. My brother despises Apple but it seems like he is always ordering a new processor or upgrading something on his Windows based computer. Same can be said for us in the cigar world. Always willing to fork over the money for the new blend or the latest and greatest from whatever manufacturer. It is not only Apple fans.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by GreekGodX

Come on Moses.. I love apple products and I'm not buying everything. My brother despises Apple but it seems like he is always ordering a new processor or upgrading something on his Windows based computer. Same can be said for us in the cigar world. Always willing to fork over the money for the new blend or the latest and greatest from whatever manufacturer. It is not only Apple fans.

Upgrading hardware for performance and being mandated to adopt to new standards are two different things. I despise Apple, but was one of the first to have an iPhone and still using the 1st gen. phone!

Who am I to knock what they are doing. They are way more successful than I could ever dream of being, but to think of hassle users will go through with the new adapter is sad. Think of car manufacturers that have the current adapter built-in like BMW and Jaguar (I sure there more than that). How is an inline converter going to work even if that's an option?

[King James]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Upgrading hardware for performance and being mandated to adopt to new standards are two different things.

It seems that they are changing the dock connector standard in order to further upgrade the hardware.

Standards change, it always sucks at first. VCR to DVD, or DVD to Blu Ray made everyone that wanted to adopt the new technology go purchase new equipment. Apple has used the same standard for 10 years, and will likely make an adaptor so people don't get completely screwed over. Will it be ideal, no, but at least its an option.

Apple can use some tricks to get people to buy new stuff every year by making small incremental changes. This, however, doesn't seem like one of them IMO.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by King James

It seems that they are changing the dock connector standard in order to further upgrade the hardware.

Standards change, it always sucks at first. VCR to DVD, or DVD to Blu Ray made everyone that wanted to adopt the new technology go purchase new equipment. Apple has used the same standard for 10 years, and will likely make an adaptor so people don't get completely screwed over. Will it be ideal, no, but at least its an option.

Apple can use some tricks to get people to buy new stuff every year by making small incremental changes. This, however, doesn't seem like one of them IMO.

I disagree on this. Just like when Apple went from the mini headphone plug in the first iphone to the regular one after which.

We are not talking about a new format (which is the device itself which uses the same cords as the older technology). What they are doing is making a change to force buyers to get new accessories in addition to the phone. No one was forced to buy a new tv or stereo because the moved from vhs to dvd.

[King James]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

I disagree on this. Just like when Apple went from the mini headphone plug in the first iphone to the regular one after which.

We are not talking about a new format (which is the device itself which uses the same cords as the older technology). What they are doing is making a change to force buyers to get new accessories in addition to the phone. No one was forced to buy a new tv or stereo because the moved from vhs to dvd.

It was more of an example of changing standards than a direct comparison. You did need to buy a new player to use on a TV, but I only give the example to use as a somewhat comparable illustration of frustration with new standards.

We may have to agree to disagree, but my point is that the standard has been used for 10 years, its not as if they switch connectors every other year. And in this case, they likely need the switch to make room for upgrades within the phone. It sucks that people will have to either use the adaptor or buy new equipment, but the change was needed. Like I said, I do agree that Apple can sometimes use shady tactics with small, incremental upgrades to get people to buy new versions of products.

Also, lets wait and see what changes actually occur and what the adaptor looks like and how it functions (if it even exists) before we really can have a good debate about it lol.

[Sauer Grapes]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Upgrading hardware for performance and being mandated to adopt to new standards are two different things. I despise Apple, but was one of the first to have an iPhone and still using the 1st gen. phone!

Who am I to knock what they are doing. They are way more successful than I could ever dream of being, but to think of hassle users will go through with the new adapter is sad. Think of car manufacturers that have the current adapter built-in like BMW and Jaguar (I sure there more than that). How is an inline converter going to work even if that's an option?

Having to use an adapter in a car will definitely be a pain since some have them built in. I'm glad that mine just has a USB port (I know that both Ford and Honda do that). In my case, all I'll need is the USB cord that Apple provides. Of course, this means that I'll probably have to buy an extra to leave in the car.

My only concern is whether or not my stereo will need a software upgrade to work with the new iphone. Of course, that really isn't Apple's fault and it's not iPhone specific by any means.

[King James]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Yup, Apple fans are suckers with open wallets.

So typical Apple. They have done these pointless changes in the past to nickel and dime everyone, like being first to get rid of floppy drives. Has nothing to do with changing technology

Apple must be the first company ever to change connectors, too. Can you still use the Motorola Startac charger with the new Droid 4?

Changes in standards are always a pain, but sometimes are necessary. Can't reduce size and increase components without making changes. Apple has used the same connector for almost 10 years, maybe cut them a little break on this change.