Am I missing something about CC's

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Originally Posted by md4958

now, now... Peter's point IS one of concern.

Many "connoisseurs" of have been duped into buying fake Havanas. If they have never had anything but fakes to compare them to, how could they ever know?

Were your friend's cigars not authentic... which is not to say that they ARE fake, Im just saying for arguments sake, he would definitely not be the first person to be fooled.

Originally Posted by Mugen910

Pnoon wasn't saying your friend doesn't know his stuff...just pointing out that there have been instances of it.

I hear you, brothers, as it's true, true, and true. However, I do have a problem with the accepted premise around here that, if someone does not like a CC he's smoked, then he probably got a fake one. One does not follow the other.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by The Poet

I hear you, brothers, as it's true, true, and true. However, I do have a problem with the accepted premise around here that, if someone does not like a CC he's smoked, then he probably got a fake one. One does not follow the other.

Of course not. But there is not an accepted premise here about fakes. There is a preponderance of fake Cuban cigars out there so it just makes sense to ask the question.

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by pnoon

Of course not. But there is not an accepted premise here about fakes. There is a preponderance of fake Cuban cigars out there so it just makes sense to ask the question.

With all due respect, I point out the question was asked, and answered. Still, this did not stop the discussion.


, but them's the facts.

[md4958]

Originally Posted by The Poet

With all due respect, I point out the question was asked, and answered. Still, this did not stop the discussion.


, but them's the facts.

True, however, how can the OP verify that they were in fact real, if has such limited experience with them. Six to be exact, all different marcas.

No offense Jon

[Jon11]

Originally Posted by md4958

True, however, how can the OP verify that they were in fact real, if has such limited experience with them. Six to be exact, all different marcas.

No offense Jon

Your probably right Moe, again they probably were fake.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Jon11

Your probably right Moe, again they probably were fake.

Hard to know what you believe at this point.

[md4958]

Originally Posted by Jon11

Your probably right Moe, again they probably were fake.

Again... not what Im saying.

But would you agree that your experience with Havanas is limited?

You say the vendor is somebody that many of us buy from... please feel free to PM me, or one of the mods (Pnoon, Icehog and Lascivious are already in this thread) the name of the vendor. That would probably put the fake discussion to rest.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Jon11

Yes Moe they were definitely real. He actually gets them from a reputable source that alot of you guys get yours from. I won't write them off, but I guarantee when I smoked only one Padron 1964 and only one tat black, and only one LP #9 I instantly loved them. Maybe my tastes will change.

Originally Posted by md4958

Again... not what Im saying.

But would you agree that your experience with Havanas is limited?

You say the vendor is somebody that many of us buy from... please feel free to PM me, or one of the mods (Pnoon, Icehob and Lascivious are already in this thread) the name of the vendor. That would probably put the fake discussion to rest.

Jon, I missed reading your post about the vendor your buddy buys from. Moe's post had me retread the whole thread. Take him up on his offer. Then we can eliminate the question of authenticity from the equation.

[DAFU]

I'm guessing the majority of members started with NCs, as myself. Some fall off the cliff and others like me, slide at various speeds. Finding CCs that you enjoy is usually the first step to picking up a bit of speed. Trying to duplicate your enjoyable smoking experience consistently can be challenging given the inconsistencies of CC's from year to year and vitola to vitola. Eventually it's usually all in with no way of turning back though. Took me a couple of years and now I only smoke a few NCs, maybe a couple VSGs and DPGs a year. That said, I can say I am particular about what CCs I'm smoking; a stinker is a stinker in my book, CC or not. Enjoy your journey and smoke what you like!

[longknocker]

Let's Put It This Way: The Best CC I've Ever Smoked Is 100X Better Than The Best NC I've Ever Smoked.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by The Poet

With all due respect, I point out the question was asked, and answered. Still, this did not stop the discussion.


, but them's the facts.

The FACT was that Jon was positive they were legit because he got them from a friend who was heavy into cigars. I was pointing out another FACT that there are plenty of folks who are heavy into cigars who have fakes. I am fairly certain (FACT) threads are started specifically for ongoing discussion.

If you believe discussion should stop, use the Report Post feature to request the thread be closed.

With all due respect.

[Jon11]

Originally Posted by The Poet

I hear you, brothers, as it's true, true, and true. However, I do have a problem with the accepted premise around here that, if someone does not like a CC he's smoked, then he probably got a fake one. One does not follow the other.

This is true. I wish I could say that they were fake, then I wouldnt be as disappointed. But unfortunately, I'm a 100% sure they were real

[md4958]

Originally Posted by Jon11

This is true. I wish I could say that they were fake, then I wouldnt be as disappointed. But unfortunately, I'm a 100% sure they were real

Well, if you dont like them, and your buddy is looking to dump his collection, feel free to pm me a list of what he has