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Suck It
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I am always cranked off when I see anyone even tilt towards Cuba with their marketing, or use it as a reference point
for comparison. These guys are in a death struggle everyday with havana, and from what I can tell, Habanos goes out of their way to be innovative within themselves. Granted, EVERYTHING THEY OWN, they STOLE, but since then they have tried to stay above the fray and just focus on trying to maintain their image as the best in the world. They have failed mightily at every turn in my opinion, their reaction to the boom was not only embarrassing, it was nearly catastrophic. But they still keep innovating and trying to shake the money tree. EVERY OTHER MAKER outside of Cuba uses them for ideas to steal, an anchor for all their legitimacy in the history of their companies or in the DNA of their master blenders and torcedores. It's almost disgusting, and I try to stay away from their products as much as possible. But again, Havana DID steal EVERYTHING. But they did not continue to steal unabashedly. I can tolerate Fuente because no one can say they don't also do it their way, and are wildly successful because of it. The Padrons live off the cuban mystique, but they also innovate on their own and are a dominant force because they refuse to pander to trends. They MAKE trends. It seems like all the boutiques will steal whatever they can to try and just get the scraps left behind by the other 2. I like a Nic cigar, but I don't like the PJ stuff, or the Drew Estates Stuff, or the Pepin stuff or the AJ stuff......Some of the cigars make the most they can out of the tobacco, but 80% of it is all the same to me. By the way OP, "poor man's Behike" is a little off base....These cigars will be money or nothing. They won't be cheap. |
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I'm nuts for the place
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Is it a rip off? Yes, but I am sure if you talk to Pete there is probably some kind of joke behind it. I always laugh at how many people love to hate on his stuff and the man himself, many without even trying his stuff or ever meeting him. I can almost guarantee if you spend a little time talking to him in person your opinion would more than likely change. Just when it comes to tobacco the guy is a wealth of knowledge and probably has forgotten more than I myself would ever know. I personally will pick up a few to try. I will never rule out a stick due to marketing gimmicks. Hell if that were the case I would have never smoked a good amount of sticks I enjoy everyday. Sh*t if it weren't for marketing gimmicks I would be out of a job! Call me biased but I would take any of the brands OLS mentioned above over most Cubans anyway. I actually just had this conversation two nights ago about this topic. I said "If someone had a Tatuaje, Liga and a Monte 2 in their hand and offered me to take one for free, the Monte would be my last choice." Not that it isn't a good smoke but I personally prefer Nic. tobacco and I also know I have a 50/50 chance that the Monte will be plugged. ![]() Things could be worse. Has anyone seen Casa De Montecristos claims on their copy of the Behike. They're claiming theirs even tastes the same. http://www.topqualitycigars.com/ Should still be on the homepage but if it moves after landing on the page search for B56.
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