It's happend

[JaKaacH]

[Da Klugs]

There is a real concern regarding the rules they have posted.


Excerpt: (First Paragraph)
"Puff Forum Agreement - Although the administrators and moderators of PUFF.com will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Puff.com, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. Puff.com owns all content that is posted.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise in violation of any U.S. laws or the laws of your country of origin. You also agree to follow the PUFF.com Code of Conduct listed below. A complete offense structure is also listed with each item."


Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.

[Stick]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

There is a real concern regarding the rules they have posted.


Excerpt:
"Puff Forum Agreement You also agree to follow the PUFF.com Code of Conduct listed below. A complete offense structure is also listed with each item."


Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.

Not only that, but I'd be careful about posting photos (taken from puff forum agreement):

"2. Picture Posting

Please do not post professional photography of any sort. Only post pictures that you do not mind sharing and pictures that are not in violation of copyright infringement. This forum is indexed daily by many search engines so the pictures within get indexed as well. PUFF.com will not be held responsible for pictures which are inappropriate or stolen – YOU will be responsible. [emphasis added]
...
The Picture Offense Structure

1st Offense: A formal warning will be sent via PM

Upon a members first offense, a PM will be sent to them informing them of the rule violation and they will also be informed of this Offense Structure.

2nd Offense: Account Suspension for 14 days

Upon a members second offense, the member will have their account suspended for 14 days. Any attempt to circumvent this suspension by creating extra accounts on the forum will directly lead into a Permanent Ban from the forum.

3rd Offense: Permanent Ban from the forum

Upon a members third offense, the member will be Permanently Banned from the forum and will never be welcomed back."

[Don Fernando]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

There is a real concern regarding the rules they have posted.


Excerpt: (First Paragraph)
"Puff Forum Agreement - Although the administrators and moderators of PUFF.com will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Puff.com, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. Puff.com owns all content that is posted.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise in violation of any U.S. laws or the laws of your country of origin. You also agree to follow the PUFF.com Code of Conduct listed below. A complete offense structure is also listed with each item."


Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.

well, I posted my words before he invoked that new rule, maybe we should all demand our posts to be removed. None of us registered at puff.com, so none of use have to obey those rules.

[rizzle]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

well, I posted my words before he invoked that new rule, maybe we should all demand our posts to be removed. None of us registered at puff.com, so none of use have to obey those rules.

Quite honestly, the words I posted over there, and here for that matter, ain't worth much to anybody.

The old adage says "home is where you hang your hat"...well, my hat and my straight jacket are very happy in CA, thanks 11!

[AD720]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

There is a real concern regarding the rules they have posted.


Excerpt: (First Paragraph)
"Puff Forum Agreement - Although the administrators and moderators of PUFF.com will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Puff.com, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. Puff.com owns all content that is posted.
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise in violation of any U.S. laws or the laws of your country of origin. You also agree to follow the PUFF.com Code of Conduct listed below. A complete offense structure is also listed with each item."


Cross posting is probably going to be an issue between here and there as MrC has taken the position that he owns your words, pictures etc. Not sure how we are going to handle this but for the time being you cross posting Commiteed Pufferfish should post it here first ... to put it in the public domain then "elsewhere" if you desire to do so.

Do it the other way around and we may have to remove MRC's "property" from our site.

Dave -

Is this true?

http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/genera...ater-guys.html

[poker]

Originally Posted by AD720

Dave -

Is this true?

http://www.puff.com/forums/vb/genera...ater-guys.html

Whats it say? I refuse to log in.

[DrDubzz]

I said I don't want my posts to be Jon's Property

He (Jon Ca-spanish for b1tch) said that the same language was in the CS agreement)

[VirtualSmitty]

Originally Posted by RX2010

I said I don't want my posts to be Jon's Property

He (Jon Ca-spanish for b1tch) said that the same language was in the CS agreement)

Yep. Long story short, when I asked to have my account deleted pds told me all my posts belonged to CS as per the user agreement (who reads those lol) and the best he could do was change my username.

[AD720]

Originally Posted by poker

Whats it say? I refuse to log in.

...the gist of it is someone said they were not going to be a member of Puff.com due to the policy of owning the content, etc. MrC responded by saying that "it is the same language" as the CS sign up agreement.

I was wondering if that was acurate, since it seems like people that were on CS are suprised/upset about it.

[AD720]

For what its worth I am not trying to call anyone here out. It very well might have been the policy (who reads those agreements anyway...you just scroll to the bottom and click whatever). I don't think that it even would have been an issue with the previous site.

Now...I don't know.

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by AD720

I am a little worried since MrC owns our thoughts...the gist of it is someone said they were not going to be a member of Puff.com due to the policy of owning the content, etc. MrC responded by saying that "it is the same language" as the CS sign up agreement.

I was wondering if that was acurate, since it seems like people that were on CS are suprised/upset about it.

Dunno it was a long time ago for me. Dont remember it but wasn't looking for it. Might have been one of those "anticipitory changes" in the brotherly to cashout process mode. The point of comparision I put forth was here vs there not CS vs Puff. We have a concern about being harrassed over "owned content" from cross posting Committeed Pufferfish per my previous post. Feel free to post the thoughts you post here, on the bathrrom wall at your favorite bus station, on your Myspace page, on the Paris Hilton fan blog.... etc. The cities are looking for revenue now though so you might want to post those here first as well.

Read their revised rules regarding ads as well. Seems none are welcome unless they are paid for. No more "specials" posted in the retailer forum based upon enforcement of the rule. It's all about the money is my takeaway.

[AD720]

I understand your concerns. I was just wondering, thanks.


FYI -

My user title was swtiched to "Alpha" and then what the mascot is over there. I switched it back to "Alpha Silverback" and it shows as
"Alpha **********".

Nice huh?

For now I am an "Alpha Silver_Back".

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Read their revised rules regarding ads as well. Seems none are welcome unless they are paid for. No more "specials" posted in the retailer forum based upon enforcement of the rule. It's all about the money is my takeaway.

Was there ever a doubt? Jon wasn't a member of ANY forum before the shopping spree....he didn't buy all those sites to foster the Brotherhood of the Leaf....he bought 'em to make money. That's not a slam on him, that is just one of the reasons I didn't want to be a part of the change.

This is home, and I couldn't be happier.

Originally Posted by JaKaacH

Can I phone a friend???

[Da Klugs]

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Can I phone a friend???

Your friends have phones?

[md4958]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Your friends have phones?

Al has a blackberry!

[Partagaspete]

I didn't know what this thread when I saw it when it only had a few replies that was until I just logged in over there to search for an old friend and I saw the new puffer fish; I got nauseated.

Thank you Team of 11 for setting this place up.

T

Originally Posted by poker

Wrong.
im not just any mod, but a mod that has been specially assigned just to watch you.

My own body guard thats friggin great!

Originally Posted by pnoon

Kelly drew the short straw.

No worries Peter, just alternate days so you can feel like you won as well!

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

With the advent of Viagra, cialis, et al , old members are now much more useful.

Now I help guys get and maintain? I don't think so, that would make me a fluffer fish.