Liga Privada question

[Silound]

Rising tobacco taxes don't help the situation either.

[forgop]

Originally Posted by Silound

Rising tobacco taxes don't help the situation either.

Only thing is the prices for my "staples" have been pretty consistent while the LP's seemed to go up 30%.

[T.G]

Originally Posted by forgop

Only thing is the prices for my "staples" have been pretty consistent while the LP's seemed to go up 30%.

I think that's either the vendors cashing in on the popularity, or just the simple laws of supply and demand or both. For the last two years, getting enough wrapper leaf has been tough due to crop issues/problems.

DE has only raised their wholesale prices by about a dollar, and that was a few years ago. 40 cents of that buck was due to S-CHIP, the rest was due to materials cost increases. A number of manufacturers have had similar price hikes for the same reasons, although whether you see them or not at your end can be tied to a number of factors, such as popularity, state taxes (we had an interesting one here in CA, state tobacco taxes actually went DOWN 14% from 47% to 33% in the last year), supply / availability, trends, etc.

[forgop]

Originally Posted by T.G

I think that's either the vendors cashing in on the popularity, or just the simple laws of supply and demand or both. For the last two years, getting enough wrapper leaf has been tough due to crop issues/problems.

I had not heard this. Seems like a very likely possibility though.

I know when Oliva had the Special S, I thought I remember hearing something mentioned about the wrapper being quite expensive. It was going to end up costing them a lot more to produce at one point. They opted to discontinue the line rather than make it the highest cost cigar in their lineup.

Part of me was wondering if we might expect the Undercrown to gain popularity and see prices go up to $200/box after a period of time.

Originally Posted by forgop

I had not heard this. Seems like a very likely possibility though.

I know when Oliva had the Special S, I thought I remember hearing something mentioned about the wrapper being quite expensive. It was going to end up costing them a lot more to produce at one point. They opted to discontinue the line rather than make it the highest cost cigar in their lineup.

Part of me was wondering if we might expect the Undercrown to gain popularity and see prices go up to $200/box after a period of time.

It's called the No. 9

Increasing the price of the UC's defeats the entire purpose of why they were created to begin with......they go up over $200 and people will just buy the T52's and 9's.

[lilninjabuddy]

Originally Posted by thecatch83

It's called the No. 9

Increasing the price of the UC's defeats the entire purpose of why they were created to begin with......they go up over $200 and people will just buy the T52's and 9's.

If the UCs hit $200, it'll be because the No.9 has already increased proportionally, still leaving the UCs as the more affordable option.

[neoflex]

Originally Posted by lilninjabuddy

If the UCs hit $200, it'll be because the No.9 has already increased proportionally, still leaving the UCs as the more affordable option.

The UCs compared to the 52s and 9s are Apples to Oranges in taste and strength IMO.

[lilninjabuddy]

Originally Posted by T.G

I think that's either the vendors cashing in on the popularity, or just the simple laws of supply and demand or both. For the last two years, getting enough wrapper leaf has been tough due to crop issues/problems.

DE has only raised their wholesale prices by about a dollar, and that was a few years ago. 40 cents of that buck was due to S-CHIP, the rest was due to materials cost increases. A number of manufacturers have had similar price hikes for the same reasons, although whether you see them or not at your end can be tied to a number of factors, such as popularity, state taxes (we had an interesting one here in CA, state tobacco taxes actually went DOWN 14% from 47% to 33% in the last year), supply / availability, trends, etc.

I know I'm new here at the nuthouse, but I've been around long enough to want to make sure I quote the above for truth.

The DE guys have been very open and honest with consumers about what they do and why, and they haven't raised their prices in a while. All of the increase is from vendors, and is due primarily to demand, as JD and Steve and crew refuse to rush out inferior product to keep up with the overwhelming demand. So the supply remains limited, and vendors continue to raise prices simply because they can.

[neoflex]

Originally Posted by lilninjabuddy

I know I'm new here at the nuthouse, but I've been around long enough to want to make sure I quote the above for truth.

The DE guys have been very open and honest with consumers about what they do and why, and they haven't raised their prices in a while. All of the increase is from vendors, and is due primarily to demand, as JD and Steve and crew refuse to rush out inferior product to keep up with the overwhelming demand. So the supply remains limited, and vendors continue to raise prices simply because they can.

I believe there was a slight increase in price for Liga in the last year to the vendors. I forget the number but for some reason 12% is stuck in my head. Don't quote me on that number though as the increase happened back in November or December if memory serves me correct and I don't really remember the exact increase. I know all the shops here in Charlotte pretty much ate the increase to stay competitive with each other on pricing.