Colts to Release Peyton Manning

[shilala]

One last thing...
I don't think Peyton is about cashing in, as evidenced by him rejecting the $100,000,000 guaranteed deal the Colts wrote him last summer. Had he accepted it, he's still a Colt and gets that $28,000,000 last week. He did it himself with the future of the Colts organization and his love for Jim Irsay and the Colts in mind. It also speaks volumes about what Jim Irsay thinks of Peyton.
Peyton literally saved that franchise with that move, and you never hear anything about it. He's a class act all the way, and you hear all about his ego all the time. That's a super-selfish, egotistical move, for sure. ollseyes:
Point being, Miami will pay him absolutely anything to play there. Literally anything. $100,000,000 guaranteed for 5 years? Done in a heartbeat and he never has to throw a ball for them, have a pro day, or prove anything. His word is is worth $100,000,000, easy. That's because he's earned that respect. If he says he can and will play, that's good enough.
His paycheck is the least of his worries, and I don't think he'll take guaranteed money from his next team except for the first year, and I think he does that simply to see that they are truly committed to him. I'd not bat an eye if he gave it back were he not to play. That's the kind of class he has.

Weeze and I have been huge Peyton fans for years, he's one of the very few ball players that I've ever thought of with great respect, where we'd have them over for dinner. Elway is another. Hines Ward is another, but not on the same plane as Peyton and Elway. Tony Dorsett is another (for me, I can't speak for Weeze, she's a HUGE Elway fan, me, not so much, but I get it.)

I know Stephen is in love with Marshawn Lynch, but I don't think he has Lynch on that plane.
Do you guys have any football players you think of like that?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by shilala

One last thing...
I don't think Peyton is about cashing in, as evidenced by him rejecting the $100,000,000 guaranteed deal the Colts wrote him last summer. Had he accepted it, he's still a Colt and gets that $28,000,000 last week. He did it himself with the future of the Colts organization and his love for Jim Irsay and the Colts in mind. It also speaks volumes about what Jim Irsay thinks of Peyton.
Peyton literally saved that franchise with that move, and you never hear anything about it. He's a class act all the way, and you hear all about his ego all the time. That's a super-selfish, egotistical move, for sure. ollseyes:
Point being, Miami will pay him absolutely anything to play there. Literally anything. $100,000,000 guaranteed for 5 years? Done in a heartbeat and he never has to throw a ball for them, have a pro day, or prove anything. His word is is worth $100,000,000, easy. That's because he's earned that respect. If he says he can and will play, that's good enough.
His paycheck is the least of his worries, and I don't think he'll take guaranteed money from his next team except for the first year, and I think he does that simply to see that they are truly committed to him. I'd not bat an eye if he gave it back were he not to play. That's the kind of class he has.

Weeze and I have been huge Peyton fans for years, he's one of the very few ball players that I've ever thought of with great respect, where we'd have them over for dinner. Elway is another. Hines Ward is another, but not on the same plane as Peyton and Elway. Tony Dorsett is another (for me, I can't speak for Weeze, she's a HUGE Elway fan, me, not so much, but I get it.)

I know Stephen is in love with Marshawn Lynch, but I don't think he has Lynch on that plane.
Do you guys have any football players you think of like that?

To be fair, I love Marshawn Lynch the football player, not Marshawn Lynch the human being. That being said, it looks like he's turned a corner in his life and his gotten his head out of his arse. Good for him.

I'd be afraid that Manning wouldn't like the pot roast and I'd get the, "Manning Face."

As far as a class act, I know it's not fair, but whenever I think of Peyton Manning one of the first things that pop into my mind is him teabagging a female trainer at Tennessee.

But as to your question, the answer for me is Drew Brees.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Stephen

To be fair, I love Marshawn Lynch the football player, not Marshawn Lynch the human being. That being said, it looks like he's turned a corner in his life and his gotten his head out of his arse. Good for him.

I'd be afraid that Manning wouldn't like the pot roast and I'd get the, "Manning Face."

As far as a class act, I know it's not fair, but whenever I think of Peyton Manning one of the first things that pop into my mind is him teabagging a female trainer at Tennessee.

But as to your question, the answer for me is Drew Brees.

Good choice with Brees. I want you to tell me why he doesn't have a contract after we're done with this conversation. That absolutely baffles me...
How the hell did I never hear about the teabagging incident? It wasn't actually a teabagging, he dropped the sack and crack on her face al a Ben Affleck. That was in '96 when he was still a kid in college. I'm sure he imagined it was a perfectly acceptable stupid kid/jock move at the time, I wonder what this cost Archie? The suit was brought against Peyton and Archie both.
If I recanted 3% of the stuff I did at that age, you 1.) wouldn't believe it and 2.) would give me a pass based on the man I am now.
Hell, even at this point I think I'd throw the nuts over your shoulder just to get a laugh.
I do see where you're coming from, though. Had I known about that way back when, I may have a different perception of him now. But from this end going backwards, and the lack of dirt from there forward, I think he got the message.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by shilala

Good choice with Brees. I want you to tell me why he doesn't have a contract after we're done with this conversation. That absolutely baffles me...

Umm, the Saints are idiots? I've got nothing. All-pro quarterback who's an even better human being who joined not only a franchise in disarray, but an entire city and led the charge in helping rebuild both.

Originally Posted by shilala

How the hell did I never hear about the teabagging incident? It wasn't actually a teabagging, he dropped the sack and crack on her face al a Ben Affleck.

Yeah, there's really not a name for that though, is there? Teabagging definitely gets the point across.

Originally Posted by shilala

That was in '96 when he was still a kid in college. I'm sure he imagined it was a perfectly acceptable stupid kid/jock move at the time, I wonder what this cost Archie? The suit was brought against Peyton and Archie both.
If I recanted 3% of the stuff I did at that age, you 1.) wouldn't believe it and 2.) would give me a pass based on the man I am now.
Hell, even at this point I think I'd throw the nuts over your shoulder just to get a laugh.
I do see where you're coming from, though. Had I known about that way back when, I may have a different perception of him now. But from this end going backwards, and the lack of dirt from there forward, I think he got the message.

I don't hold it against him per se, because we all did stupid stuff when we were 21 years old (and I can't even imagine being 21 years old and having an entire state worship the ground you walk on). It just makes me smirk to hear people talk about how classy he is, then picturing him sitting on a female trainer's face like it was a toilet seat.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Umm, the Saints are idiots? I've got nothing. All-pro quarterback who's an even better human being who joined not only a franchise in disarray, but an entire city and led the charge in helping rebuild both.

I can't imagine he's asking for anything unfair. If he's asking to be paid like the best qb in the league, they sure can't argue that. 20 million a year is a bit more than Brady, and he's definately worth it. That's a pittance compared to what he brings to the organization's bottom line.
I have no idea what he's asking, but if he wants 25 million/year for 5 years with half of it guaranteed, he's worth every dime no matter what calculator they use.
If Peyton ends up getting paid here in the next week or so, it's going to cost the Saints big. He only gets 14.5 mill under the franchise tag, I understand he's livid over a deal not getting done, and if he's got a bit of vindictiveness in him, I could see him walking next season.
He hasn't signed the tender, either. I guess they have till July 15th to get a deal done.
Now answer me this...
If Brees chooses not to accept the franchise tender, can he be a free agent after July 15th, or does he have to sit out the year, assuming he's upset enough to not play?

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by shilala

I can't imagine he's asking for anything unfair. If he's asking to be paid like the best qb in the league, they sure can't argue that. 20 million a year is a bit more than Brady, and he's definately worth it. That's a pittance compared to what he brings to the organization's bottom line.
I have no idea what he's asking, but if he wants 25 million/year for 5 years with half of it guaranteed, he's worth every dime no matter what calculator they use.
If Peyton ends up getting paid here in the next week or so, it's going to cost the Saints big. He only gets 14.5 mill under the franchise tag, I understand he's livid over a deal not getting done, and if he's got a bit of vindictiveness in him, I could see him walking next season.
He hasn't signed the tender, either. I guess they have till July 15th to get a deal done.
Now answer me this...
If Brees chooses not to accept the franchise tender, can he be a free agent after July 15th, or does he have to sit out the year, assuming he's upset enough to not play?

Saints Have Always Been "Cheapskates". I Hope They Sign Brees Quickly!

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by shilala

If Brees chooses not to accept the franchise tender, can he be a free agent after July 15th, or does he have to sit out the year, assuming he's upset enough to not play?

He sits for the year (or he signs the tender, or he and the Saints come to terms on a contract).

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Stephen

He sits for the year (or he signs the tender, or he and the Saints come to terms on a contract).

It's hard to believe the player's union let's that one get in the CBA. It's a very loaded tool, and really does nothing for player/team relationships.
I just simply can't believe the Ain'ts don't have him tied up. I guess they forget what it was like being the Aint's, thanks to Brees?
Now I'm pissed.