Colts to Release Peyton Manning

kelmac07 · 03-07-2012, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Hopefully Luck dosn't turn into another Ryan Leaf. I'm kind of suprised to see the Colts letting Manning go but at the same time I guess I'm not. I can see how Manning is getting old and they don't want to take the risk on him.

The Colts had 28 million reasons to let him go. I truly believe this was ALL about the all mighty dollar.

smitty81 · 03-07-2012, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kelmac07

The Colts had 28 million reasons to let him go. I truly believe this was ALL about the all mighty dollar.

Oh I'm sure it was. Too bad they couldn't have signed him back for at least a year or two year to play/coach luck. I don't see payton taking the backseat to anyone though no matter how bad he plays.

I truley think if he dosn't start some where, He will just retire. He will make a damn fine QB coach for someone though.

Stephen · 03-07-2012, 08:03 AM

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Oh I'm sure it was. Too bad they couldn't have signed him back for at least a year or two year to play/coach luck. I don't see payton taking the backseat to anyone though no matter how bad he plays.

He was under contract. The problem was that he was due a $28 million roster bonus (tomorrow I think). He had already said that he was not renegotiating his contract.

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I truley think if he dosn't start some where, He will just retire. He will make a damn fine QB coach for someone though.

If (and that's still a big if) he can pass a physical and show that he can competently throw the football, he won't have any trouble finding a starting gig.

03-07-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Oh I'm sure it was. Too bad they couldn't have signed him back for at least a year or two year to play/coach luck. I don't see payton taking the backseat to anyone though no matter how bad he plays.

I truley think if he dosn't start some where, He will just retire. He will make a damn fine QB coach for someone though.

What makes you think Peyton Manning can coach so well for?

smitty81 · 03-07-2012, 08:29 AM

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What makes you think Peyton Manning can coach so well for?

Anyone that has been around that long, knows the game and his position that well should be able to teach a few things to the new guys.

I know that not everyone can coach just because they can play well but I truely believe that he would be a great QB coach.

He has such a great understanding of the game and such.

Stephen · 03-07-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Anyone that has been around that long, knows the game and his position that well should be able to teach a few things to the new guys.

I know that not everyone can coach just because they can play well but I truely believe that he would be a great coach.

He has such a great understanding of the game and such.

Actually, rare is the superstar player that makes a good coach in ANY sport.

shilala · 03-07-2012, 08:41 AM

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Actually, rare is the superstar player that makes a good coach in ANY sport.

Peyton's understanding of defenses and offense, and his ability to see things and call the perfect play time and again does give him an edge. The way he leads his team, another edge.
His personality, another edge.
I agree with you, but I've long thought that if a guy can make the transition, he's one that can. I think he'd make a better fit as a head coach than an offensive or quarterback coach. Quarterback coach being the least likely.
He's got enough experience in running a good part of that club, and his close ties with ownership and upper management really give him a leg up if anyone has one.
I have no idea if it's something he even wants to do, it's just a sneaking suspicion. I can see him in that role, I guess. I'd far rather see him in the booth. This season. But that's just cause I'm selfish.

Stephen · 03-07-2012, 08:47 AM

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Peyton's understanding of defenses and offense, and his ability to see things and call the perfect play time and again does give him an edge. The way he leads his team, another edge.
His personality, another edge.
I agree with you, but I've long thought that if a guy can make the transition, he's one that can. I think he'd make a better fit as a head coach than an offensive or quarterback coach. Quarterback coach being the least likely.
He's got enough experience in running a good part of that club, and his close ties with ownership and upper management really give him a leg up if anyone has one.
I have no idea if it's something he even wants to do, it's just a sneaking suspicion. I can see him in that role, I guess. I'd far rather see him in the booth. This season. But that's just cause I'm selfish.

Samurai Mike says hi. Also, I think it'd get incredibly old incredibly fast of him blaming everyone else for when things go wrong (although admittedly he'd gotten better at this the past couple of seasons).

03-07-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty81

Anyone that has been around that long, knows the game and his position that well should be able to teach a few things to the new guys.

I know that not everyone can coach just because they can play well but I truely believe that he would be a great QB coach.

He has such a great understanding of the game and such.

In my opinion, Peyton just comes off with a large ego. Hard to blame him with his talents. But I don't see him being a good coach. He just doesn't seem humble enough or down to earth.

smitty81 · 03-07-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

In my opinion, Peyton just comes off with a large ego. Hard to blame him with his talents. But I don't see him being a good coach. He just doesn't seem humble enough or down to earth.

What does that matter as long as you know your crap and can teach it.

03-07-2012, 09:00 AM

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What does that matter as long as you know your crap and can teach it.

Part of teaching it is having people listen. I've seen very knowledgable people make horrible teachers because no one will listen to them due to personality issues.

03-07-2012, 09:01 AM

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What does that matter as long as you know your crap and can teach it.

You don't think that kind of stuff matters in coaching? Being a humble person and not letting your damn ego get in the way plays a big role in coaching. Understanding your players and relating to them on their level is important in coaching, no?

shilala · 03-07-2012, 07:59 AM

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The Colts had 28 million reasons to let him go. I truly believe this was ALL about the all mighty dollar.

Dollars had a lot to do with it, Mac. The Colts absolutely suck. They need the money to rebuild.
They have to weigh the opportunity to build with Luck and put a team around him against a few years with Peyton and no team around him. The latter has worked for a lot of years, but Peyton was in good shape. Now he's a big gamble at best.
I think we'll find that Peyton doesn't have a problem with this move. He's done anything he can to protect that organization from his failing health, up to and including rewriting his contract so that the Colts didn't have to pay him the last 8 million they paid him while he was broke down.
I truly believe Peyton and Jim Irsay made this decision together,m and that Peyton will be a part of the Colts organization for a long, long time once he's done with this "play for another team" thing. I don't think it's going to go well, either. Peyton is way too screwed up.
Ultimately he's going to be a lot more valuable for his head than he is for his body if he can avoid ending up in a wheelchair.