Cuban Tobacco

[Malazan]

I'm confused about something.

Are there cigars made with tobacco grown in Cuba, yet rolled in another Country, and then legal for sale in America?

Say, if a company in Honduras bought Cuban Tobacco and made the cigars in Honduras, would they be considered illegal for import to the US?

Does this even happen? Or is it a moot point?

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Malazan

I'm confused about something.

Are there cigars made with tobacco grown in Cuba, yet rolled in another Country, and then legal for sale in America? No

Say, if a company in Honduras bought Cuban Tobacco and made the cigars in Honduras, would they be considered illegal for import to the US? Yes

See above

[Malazan]

So when people talk about smoking CC vs NC, they are actually cigars straight off the boat from Cuba? Not Cuban Tobacco cigars form somewhere else

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Malazan

So when people talk about smoking CC vs NC, they are actually cigars straight off the boat from Cuba?

In a manner of speaking, yes. There are vendors of Cuban cigars all over the world.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Hem

And the point of this is what?

[Hem]

Just a joke Pete, just a joke

[pnoon]

Well what started out at a somewhat serious thread about cigars has now been shat upon by useless banter.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Or stupid pictures.

Exactly my point.

Originally Posted by Malazan

So when people talk about smoking CC vs NC, they are actually cigars straight off the boat from Cuba? Not Cuban Tobacco cigars form somewhere else

All cigars rolled in Cuba are 100% cuban tobacco. Puros. Period. +1 to what Peter said as well.

[Malazan]

My Service Manager where I work has some Cuban Montecristos and Cohibas. One of the salesmen got them in the Caribbean and brought them home. The boxes say Made in Cuba. I forget that only the US has the embargo and no other country gives a crap about where the cigars come from.


So Cuban seed cigars are grown somewhere else, just using seeds taken from Cuba back in the day?

Originally Posted by Malazan

My Service Manager where I work has some Cuban Montecristos and Cohibas. One of the salesmen got them in the Caribbean and brought them home. The boxes say Made in Cuba. I forget that only the US has the embargo and no other country gives a crap about where the cigars come from.


So Cuban seed cigars are grown somewhere else, just using seeds taken from Cuba back in the day?

Don't forget though that the Caribbean has many fakes..

[emopunker2004]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

Don't forget though that the Caribbean has many fakes..

This! Especially the Bahamas and Jamaica

[T.G]

Originally Posted by Malazan

My Service Manager where I work has some Cuban Montecristos and Cohibas. One of the salesmen got them in the Caribbean and brought them home. The boxes say Made in Cuba. I forget that only the US has the embargo and no other country gives a crap about where the cigars come from.

Never seen a legitimate box of Montes or Cohiba cigars that says "Made in Cuba".

"Hecho En Cuba" sure.

But even the counterfeits have that marked on them. The Caribbean is ripe with counterfeit cigar, so depending on where they came from they might or might not be legit.

Originally Posted by Malazan

So Cuban seed cigars are grown somewhere else, just using seeds taken from Cuba back in the day?

Or even recently. Doesn't matter. 1st generation tobacco leaves, grown from Cuban seed, in another country, are not considered Cuban in origin and therefore are only bound by whatever trade agreements exist with that country.

[Malazan]

Originally Posted by T.G

Never seen a legitimate box of Montes or Cohiba cigars that says "Made in Cuba".

"Hecho En Cuba" sure.

But even the counterfeits have that marked on them. The Caribbean is ripe with counterfeit cigar, so depending on where they came from they might or might not be legit.



Or even recently. Doesn't matter. 1st generation tobacco leaves, grown from Cuban seed, in another country, are not considered Cuban in origin and therefore are only bound by whatever trade agreements exist with that country.

They do say Hecho en Cuba, I wrote Made in Cuba cause I'm a silly American

[Don Fernando]

Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox

All cigars rolled in Cuba are 100% cuban tobacco. Puros. Period. +1 to what Peter said as well.

Yeah, right. Thats what they want you to believe

Originally Posted by Malazan

My Service Manager where I work has some Cuban Montecristos and Cohibas. One of the salesmen got them in the Caribbean and brought them home. The boxes say Made in Cuba. I forget that only the US has the embargo and no other country gives a crap about where the cigars come from.


So Cuban seed cigars are grown somewhere else, just using seeds taken from Cuba back in the day?

Do these Cohibas have a orange-yellow band with a non embossed chobia logo and two rows of white dots above the cohiba because they are totally legit.

Cuban seed as far as i know is exactly that cuban tobacco seeds.

[LostAbbott]

I have heard some people say with authority that it does go the other way though. That Cuba imports tobacco from other countries and then rolls it into their cigars... one gut even said it was their #1 import..... not sure if that is legit info, anyone know?
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[CigarNut]

If Cuba was importing tobacco I don't think that they would be able to keep it secret...

[shilala]

Cuba is rife with tobacco. For them to import tobacco doesn't make a lot of sense, but it could happen. Tobacco crops are just like any other crops. They can have extremely bad years, or numbers of extremely bad years in a row.
Even at that, I can't see them importing anything but maybe a small amount to keep a particular blend correct. That's a very far-fetched idea, as tobaccos from other parts of the world just don't taste the same. That said, their blenders are the best in the world, true artists at what they do. If anyone could make use of another country's tobacco, it'd be them.
I could definately see them importing wrapper, being it's so tough to grow. They could easily fall short.
Despite all that, I still can't really imagine them importing any tobacco whatsoever.

Originally Posted by shilala

Cuba is rife with tobacco. For them to import tobacco doesn't make a lot of sense, but it could happen. Tobacco crops are just like any other crops. They can have extremely bad years, or numbers of extremely bad years in a row.
Even at that, I can't see them importing anything but maybe a small amount to keep a particular blend correct. That's a very far-fetched idea, as tobaccos from other parts of the world just don't taste the same. That said, their blenders are the best in the world, true artists at what they do. If anyone could make use of another country's tobacco, it'd be them.
I could definately see them importing wrapper, being it's so tough to grow. They could easily fall short.
Despite all that, I still can't really imagine them importing any tobacco whatsoever.

Some of there blenders are good some are just crap COUGH party E5/trinny short robusto COUGH but what you say about cuban and non cuban tobacco tasting completely different is correct and im sure we would of noticed the change in flavour if it was true.