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Old 02-18-2012, 06:01 AM   #1
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You need to fix the problem and not treat the symptoms. Is it possible you don't spend enough activity time with your dog? You need to redirect the behavior.. your dog seems to have way too much energy and seems anxious.
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You need to fix the problem and not treat the symptoms. Is it possible you don't spend enough activity time with your dog? You need to redirect the behavior.. your dog seems to have way too much energy and seems anxious.
i do not agree with this. I had a beagle that would run around for hours. I mean hours, i took the dog for walks, i would let the dog run around for hours and i would play with the dog. But nothing helped with the barking or the miss behaving. First we tried the noise controller (put out a high pitch sound that the dog hates) this didn't work my dog figured out that she could get it to stop if she ran far enough away. We tried the shock collar and that worked. We would give her a short shock when she was barking or running away. It worked for the most part. BUT remember you will never change your dog spirit.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:13 AM   #3
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i do not agree with this. I had a beagle that would run around for hours. I mean hours, i took the dog for walks, i would let the dog run around for hours and i would play with the dog. But nothing helped with the barking or the miss behaving. First we tried the noise controller (put out a high pitch sound that the dog hates) this didn't work my dog figured out that she could get it to stop if she ran far enough away. We tried the shock collar and that worked. We would give her a short shock when she was barking or running away. It worked for the most part. BUT remember you will never change your dog spirit.
The dog is not misbehaving, you need to redirect the behavior.. just because you walk your dog or play for hours doesn't mean the barking will magically stop. Your dog doesn't speak English so you need to train your dog by working with him. Usually such "bad behaviors" develop out of boredom and it's the only thing the dog knows so he continues doing it.

Negative reinforcement is a bad thing with animals.. and that's exactly what a shock collar does. I'll try to write something up later.

Big Maduro, where in OH are you? We foster, rescue and rehabilitate for SPA and Dogworks.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:15 AM   #4
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The dog is not misbehaving, you need to redirect the behavior.. just because you walk your dog or play for hours doesn't mean the barking will magically stop. Your dog doesn't speak English so you need to train your dog by working with him. Usually such "bad behaviors" develop out of boredom and it's the only thing the dog knows so he continues doing it.

Negative reinforcement is a bad thing with animals.. and that's exactly what a shock collar does. I'll try to write something up later.

Big Maduro, where in OH are you? We foster, rescue and rehabilitate for SPA and Dogworks.
DC, I like the positive reinforcement route. I can understand how you could get the dog to bark when you WANT him to bark (i.e. someone at the door) by using positive reinforcement, but how do you get bad behavior (i.e. barking at nothing) to stop by using positive reinforcement.

Very curious...thanks for the info!
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:21 AM   #5
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DC, I like the positive reinforcement route. I can understand how you could get the dog to bark when you WANT him to bark (i.e. someone at the door) by using positive reinforcement, but how do you get bad behavior (i.e. barking at nothing) to stop by using positive reinforcement.

Very curious...thanks for the info!
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I have had great luck with SHOCK collars. You can control when they get nipped. If they are barking when they shouldnt be, give them a little nip. After a little while, they will get the idea. It could take up to a year of training like this before they figure out when they can and can't bark.

I have had great luck training like this and after a few months with some dogs, they stopped the bad behavior (some may take longer). I don't feel shock collars are bad or cruel unless you use them that way. It allows them to learn what they are or are not suppost to do. It's not like your hitting them with 220V .

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Old 02-18-2012, 09:30 AM   #6
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The dog is not misbehaving, you need to redirect the behavior.. just because you walk your dog or play for hours doesn't mean the barking will magically stop. Your dog doesn't speak English so you need to train your dog by working with him. Usually such "bad behaviors" develop out of boredom and it's the only thing the dog knows so he continues doing it.

Negative reinforcement is a bad thing with animals.. and that's exactly what a shock collar does. I'll try to write something up later.

Big Maduro, where in OH are you? We foster, rescue and rehabilitate for SPA and Dogworks.
This Guy knows what he is talking about. All a shock collar is going to do is cover-up the problem. The best way to get a dog to stop barking is to train him to bark on command. That way you can easily train him to stop, and praise him when he does bark. The dog will figure out when it is ok to bark and when it is not. Do a Google search on training to bark and you will find a lot of great information on how to start.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:12 AM   #7
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I'm in Columbus. The lady we got this dog from kept her crated a lot of the time it sounds like. I've tried some different training techniques, like going out the door and knocking while my son commands her to sit and "quiet" I've tried getting between her and the fence with my body like the dog whisperer. Shake cans and others. I play with her a lot. She loves fetch and would almost rather do that than eat. When someone wlks down the ally,she charges the fence and goes nuts. I appreciate all the help.
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