Official SEC Football Thread 2011

[E.J.]

Originally Posted by SvilleKid

Bye bye! Already have one ignored one on this thread. Let's just make it two. Don't argue with him, Ninja. He is just like Another here in that he wants to argue just to argue. Not worth the trouble. Arguing just to be arguing.

So that is how it works..... Personally, I thought I came in here with some good discussion, some numbers to back up my point/thoughts ect.... If I appear to be arguing just to argue, that was not the intent. Admittedly, the response to you had no point, other than to point out you were talking rubbish. What, you've brought up "the BIG10" and then "asking others not to play with the guy that doesn't think like you do....that will make him go away" Honestly, from what I have seen from you so far, it may be best if you did just ignore me.... It seems pretty clear that you'd probably be out of your league....so to speak....

Originally Posted by ninjavanish

The thing to take away from today's selection is that there's obviously a struggle for all other conferences to have relevancy against the dominance of the SEC lately. (And to all of you nay-sayers, it doesn't matter at this point, the chips have fallen and make no mistake, there WILL BE a national champion from the SEC this season)

Originally Posted by E.J.

Okay...yes, I can see how all other conferences having relevance or even trying to compete, well....there should probably be the SEC....SEC....SEC....and then D2.....

Originally Posted by ninjavanish

Not sure I'm following you here, what are you trying to say?

The highlighted in red was what I was responding to.

[ninjavanish]

Originally Posted by E.J.

The highlighted in red was what I was responding to.

The thing to take away from today's selection is that there's obviously a struggle for all other conferences to have relevancy against the dominance of the SEC lately.

Originally Posted by E.J.

Okay...yes, I can see how all other conferences having relevance or even trying to compete, well....there should probably be the SEC....SEC....SEC....and then D2.....

I understand what your response was in regards to. It's the content of your reply that I'm not following you on. Is it to refute the dominance of the SEC in recent years? Or are you saying that all other conferences should be relegated to playing in Division II? That's where I'm confused.

[SvilleKid]

Jeremy..... As we discussed, I went back and did a little research. In the weeks that they played.... Per Coach's poll: Both Bama and Oklahoma State played 4 Top-25 ranked teams each. Alabama played against 20, 12, 12 and # 1 ranked teams. Ok St played a 8, 21, 12 and 11. These were using the Coaches poll placement at the start of each game.

So, AT THE TIME of each game, both Bama and Ok St each played four top 25 ranked teams. And Ok St only played the fourth ranked team because of their conference championship game.

Bama lost to undefeated No. 1 ranked LSU at the time of the loss. Ok St lost to un-ranked Iowa State, who had a record of 5-4 going into the game. Just thought you'd find the data interesting, and sets record straight as to how many "ranked" teams each of these two played.

[ninjavanish]

Originally Posted by SvilleKid

Jeremy..... As we discussed, I went back and did a little research. In the weeks that they played.... Per Coach's poll: Both Bama and Oklahoma State played 4 Top-25 ranked teams each. Alabama played against 20, 12, 12 and # 1 ranked teams. Ok St played a 8, 21, 12 and 11. These were using the Coaches poll placement at the start of each game.

So, AT THE TIME of each game, both Bama and Ok St each played four top 25 ranked teams. And Ok St only played the fourth ranked team because of their conference championship game.

Bama lost to undefeated No. 1 ranked LSU at the time of the loss. Ok St lost to un-ranked Iowa State, who had a record of 5-4 going into the game. Just thought you'd find the data interesting, and sets record straight as to how many "ranked" teams each of these two played.

Doesn't matter too much either way.

This whole BCS argument that's been raging here spurs a very old memory of mine:

When I was a kid, like 6-7 years old, I did not like even the thought of getting shots/immunizations. I would kick and scream and pitch a holy fit. But you know what happened in the end? Big people held me down and I got the shot anyway. Just saying... seems relevant here.

[Smokin Gator]

Originally Posted by ninjavanish

Doesn't matter too much either way.

This whole BCS argument that's been raging here spurs a very old memory of mine:

When I was a kid, like 6-7 years old, I did not like even the thought of getting shots/immunizations. I would kick and scream and pitch a holy fit. But you know what happened in the end? Big people held me down and I got the shot anyway. Just saying... seems relevant here.

[OLS]

Originally Posted by SvilleKid

Jeremy..... As we discussed, I went back and did a little research. In the weeks that they played.... Per Coach's poll: Both Bama and Oklahoma State played 4 Top-25 ranked teams each. Alabama played against 20, 12, 12 and # 1 ranked teams. Ok St played a 8, 21, 12 and 11. These were using the Coaches poll placement at the start of each game.

So, AT THE TIME of each game, both Bama and Ok St each played four top 25 ranked teams. And Ok St only played the fourth ranked team because of their conference championship game.

This is a pretty weak argument. This is like saying I am 30 years old because I used to be 30.
Teams like Florida were ranked on expectations near the beginning of the season and beat teams
that everyone else beat soundly up to that point and for the rest of the year. UT couldn't catch
a break and people ranked UF highly on expectations and pity it seemed like until people just realized they
were NOT a standard Florida team. Bama played two good SEC teams and 6 pushover SEC teams and
3 NC pushovers. Vandy played better than they have in decades but still didn't have enough juice
to be called a big threat to Alabama.
This is not me saying bama sucks, LSU is No.1, this is me saying if you are going to stand up and say bama
should be playing LSU and NOT OK St., then at least use some kind of real numbers. And if you are going
to throw in "OK St. only played the 4th team because of the conference championship game, then say that
in front of a mirror first and listen to how it sounds. Bama didn't win it's division OR conference championship.
I'd call the Uof OK win a HELL of a win and a HELL of a factor.

Of course your point could be that they got an extra game to rack up a top 25 win, Bama didn't...
but you PLAY HARD AND TAKE a berth in the conf champ, you don't get handed free stuff
cause 'this is your year'. ---edit--- and I understand your point, but this is a mid-season point,
this shouldn't be allowed at season's end. It's fun to look back and make notes and gather data
but this is hardly useful at this late date. To make my point, the computer rankings for the title
week compilation likely do NOT take any of this into consideration. This is just like the RPI, if
Memphis beats Tennessee in Basketball and UT is ranked #2 pre-season, Memphis has to PRAY
that they keep being awesome or their RPI plummets when they get shown for what they really are.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by SvilleKid

And Ok St only played the fourth ranked team because of their conference championship game.

Don't mean to interrupt your homering, but the Big XII doesn't have a Conference Championship game. Bedlam's been played for over a 100 years now. Carry on.