Troubling sights at my local B&M

Doctorossi · 10-21-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bobarian

If you add up all the members of all the online cigar communities, we are still but a miniscule percentage of the buying public. The vast majority don't smoke Tatuaje products at all much less seek out their limited releases. Most cigar smokers buy a few sticks on Friday for the weekend or for a round of golf and that's it. No humidor, no beads, nothing.

Of course Tatuaje buyers are a small percentage of the cigar market-at-large, but the question here is about the interest in one of the highest profile releases within the Tatuaje market, not the larger market. This guy is a Tatuaje dealer- his Tatuaje customers are necessarily interested in Tatuaje product. For this guy to imagine he has a viable market for Tatuaje items, but not one for the current hottest Tatuaje item is just kind of odd.

Ratters · 10-22-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Of course Tatuaje buyers are a small percentage of the cigar market-at-large, but the question here is about the interest in one of the highest profile releases within the Tatuaje market, not the larger market. This guy is a Tatuaje dealer- his Tatuaje customers are necessarily interested in Tatuaje product. For this guy to imagine he has a viable market for Tatuaje items, but not one for the current hottest Tatuaje item is just kind of odd.

Not at all. I know a shop that carries Tats and couldn't care less about limited releases. It's just another brand to him. In fact he was blowing them out because they don't sell very well. Again, most smokers don't want things strong and spicy, they just want a nice mild smoke while enjoying some other activity.

Doctorossi · 10-25-2011, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratters

Not at all. I know a shop that carries Tats and couldn't care less about limited releases. It's just another brand to him. In fact he was blowing them out because they don't sell very well. Again, most smokers don't want things strong and spicy, they just want a nice mild smoke while enjoying some other activity.

That just says to me that that particular shop owner hasn't really connected with the Tatuaje market. If you ask Tatuaje fans- the people who go to a shop because it has Tatuaje- if they're interested in the Wolfman, I'd bet most will say 'yes'.

Ratters · 10-26-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

That just says to me that that particular shop owner hasn't really connected with the Tatuaje market. If you ask Tatuaje fans- the people who go to a shop because it has Tatuaje- if they're interested in the Wolfman, I'd bet most will say 'yes'.

My point is that for every Tat "fan" walking through the door, there are hundreds of customers who aren't. He is in business to make money, and searching out a 1% market just isn't in his interest. The shop I go to is interested in boutique cigars and that's why I go there. But I don't bash the other shops for not doing it, they aren't in business to serve just my needs. If they find they can run a servicable business with more common cigars, I have no problem with it, I just don't shop there.

theonlybear4CORT · 10-26-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratters

My point is that for every Tat "fan" walking through the door, there are hundreds of customers who aren't. He is in business to make money, and searching out a 1% market just isn't in his interest. The shop I go to is interested in boutique cigars and that's why I go there. But I don't bash the other shops for not doing it, they aren't in business to serve just my needs. If they find they can run a servicable business with more common cigars, I have no problem with it, I just don't shop there.

Well said.

loki · 10-22-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

For this guy to imagine he has a viable market for Tatuaje items, but not one for the current hottest Tatuaje item is just kind of odd.

won't there be another one of those next week?

Doctorossi · 10-25-2011, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by loki

won't there be another one of those next week?

I'm not here to defend Tatuaje's business model- it is what it is. I'm just saying that it's kind of weird for someone to think his customers want Tats but don't want the hot new Tats.

Blak Smyth · 10-25-2011, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I'm not here to defend Tatuaje's business model- it is what it is. I'm just saying that it's kind of weird for someone to think his customers want Tats but don't want the hot new Tats.

I go to a shop just because it has Tats.
In fact I don't go to a certain shop because the shop owner refuses to carry Tats. He told me he won't go after distributers, they must come to him. I am a customer and he is losing me because he doesn't care enough to stock what I want.

Doctorossi · 10-25-2011, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Blak Smyth

I go to a shop just because it has Tats.
In fact I don't go to a certain shop because the shop owner refuses to carry Tats. He told me he won't go after distributers, they must come to him. I am a customer and he is losing me because he doesn't care enough to stock what I want.

This experience is sadly familiar to me.