Filtered Cigars??? Who are we kidding?

timj219 · 10-15-2011, 01:28 PM

I received a catalog the other day from an online cigar store. Featured on the front page were cartons of ten packs of twenty "filtered cigars". Now I live in upstate New York and the tobacco taxes here are absurdly high and B&Ms have to fight every day to get legislators to separate cigars from cigarettes when they come up with new taxes and regulations. Sometimes they succeed but mostly they don't. Which is part of the reason the last B&M within 50 miles of my house went out of business a couple years ago. Products like these "filtered cigars" seem to me obviously targeted at skirting the laws against mail order cigarettes and seem to support the claims of those who don't like exempting cigars from the rules that govern cigarette sales.

I think this tactic crosses the line that separates honest competition from unfair and malignant business practice. I believe it's killing B&Ms in my state and hurts all cigar smokers so I've decided I won't buy from them. Am I wrong on this? And even if I'm right in principle am I wrong to single out this particular seller? I've never seen these products advertised by other sellers but maybe all the online guys do it?

Disclaimer: I'm not disputing this company's right to do business however they see fit - I'm merely considering exercising my own right to buy where I see fit.

T.G · 10-15-2011, 01:53 PM

While the little filtered cigars are nothing new, they really came to prominence a few years ago when the FDA banned the sale of all flavored cigarettes other than menthol. For example, all those boxes of Djarum clove "cigarettes" that many B&Ms sell? Those are all technically cigars because they now have HTL wrappers.

Some online and catalog sellers carry these little filtered cigars, some don't.

thechrisdotcom · 10-15-2011, 02:18 PM

Filter or no filter, aren't these "cigars" made with the similar parts of a cigar, minus the quality, without all the additives of a cigarette?

That's the only reason I would still call it a cigar even though it looks like a cigarette.

10-15-2011, 01:28 PM	#1
timj219 Feeling at Home Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Tim Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 699 Trading: (15)	Filtered Cigars??? Who are we kidding? I received a catalog the other day from an online cigar store. Featured on the front page were cartons of ten packs of twenty "filtered cigars". Now I live in upstate New York and the tobacco taxes here are absurdly high and B&Ms have to fight every day to get legislators to separate cigars from cigarettes when they come up with new taxes and regulations. Sometimes they succeed but mostly they don't. Which is part of the reason the last B&M within 50 miles of my house went out of business a couple years ago. Products like these "filtered cigars" seem to me obviously targeted at skirting the laws against mail order cigarettes and seem to support the claims of those who don't like exempting cigars from the rules that govern cigarette sales. I think this tactic crosses the line that separates honest competition from unfair and malignant business practice. I believe it's killing B&Ms in my state and hurts all cigar smokers so I've decided I won't buy from them. Am I wrong on this? And even if I'm right in principle am I wrong to single out this particular seller? I've never seen these products advertised by other sellers but maybe all the online guys do it? Disclaimer: I'm not disputing this company's right to do business however they see fit - I'm merely considering exercising my own right to buy where I see fit. __________________ "All this of Pot and Potter - Tell me then, Who is the Potter, pray, and who the Pot?" Omar Khayyam

10-15-2011, 01:53 PM	#2
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,557 Trading: (37)	Re: Filtered Cigars??? Who are we kidding? While the little filtered cigars are nothing new, they really came to prominence a few years ago when the FDA banned the sale of all flavored cigarettes other than menthol. For example, all those boxes of Djarum clove "cigarettes" that many B&Ms sell? Those are all technically cigars because they now have HTL wrappers. Some online and catalog sellers carry these little filtered cigars, some don't. Last edited by T.G; 10-15-2011 at 02:08 PM.

10-15-2011, 02:18 PM	#3
thechrisdotcom . Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 601 Trading: (2)	Re: Filtered Cigars??? Who are we kidding? Filter or no filter, aren't these "cigars" made with the similar parts of a cigar, minus the quality, without all the additives of a cigarette? That's the only reason I would still call it a cigar even though it looks like a cigarette.