The legal age of a cigar?

[kelmac07]

Where is Hankerson/Wilkerson (whatever his name was) when you need him?

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

Where is Hankerson/Wilkerson (whatever his name was) when you need him?

We need him like we need gonorrhea.

[Bill86]

Originally Posted by kelmac07

Where is Hankerson/Wilkerson (whatever his name was) when you need him?

Nickerson.

Originally Posted by pnoon

We need him like we need gonorrhea.

This.

[jjirons69]

The info I've gathered over the years is most NCs don't age well. Prime example, Shilala's blind review contest. Some might, but most probably don't. CCs seem to take aging better. DaKlugs is a firm believer in at least 10-year old Cohibos and he's smart.

[mmblz]

Originally Posted by jjirons69

The info I've gathered over the years is most NCs don't age well. Prime example, Shilala's blind review contest. Some might, but most probably don't. CCs seem to take aging better. DaKlugs is a firm believer in at least 10-year old Cohibos and he's smart.

as far as the shilala contest - based on your comment I was expecting it to be "compare a fresh NC to an aged one". But all I found was this:

Originally Posted by shilala

I just got caught up with your reviews, Wayne. You did an awesome job, and your prize smokes are on the way.
I posted my thoughts on the jar process over in Eric's thread, and I'm going to post them here because it answers to the aging comment you made. These particular cigars turn to crap in a year to 18 months in the humi, they just completely die and turn to flavorless nothingness. I think the jars slowed that death by a good year or two. These smokes, from my experience, should have been tasteless by November of '09. So I think the jars help, but I was looking for something that absolutely halted the downfall of these cheapo cigars and kept them good forever. To that goal, they failed. They still worked much better than my winador and cabinet humi, for sure. We're working with bottom-line crap tobacco, so the jars could very well still be a huge help with good weed. Time will tell.

Here's the post I made over in Eric's thread. Your prize smokes have been sent as well, and I thank you VERY much for suffering through this!!!

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The Arizona Cardinals remark made me LOL.
Well done, Eric. I don't think I could have been blessed with two better reviewers than you and Wayne.
I'm not sure if the jar/review experiment showed me anything that was really quantitive. If anything, it supported my personal thoughts that aging cigars sucks for my intents and purposes. After a time, they just go blah, and that's that. I do feel that the jars slowed the aging on this value tobacco, as they'd have gone south and been completely dull in a year to 18 months time in the humi. I can say that because I've tested and watched it happen many, many times. I just wanted to find a way to keep a nice, strong, flavorful, full-bodied cigar from suffering the sands of time. The jars help, but they aren't the fountain of youth I was looking for. Unfortunately, they may be the only option.
I know cc's have special magical powers that make them super better with age, but in my experience, just as many of them suffer from the aging blahs as do nc's. I'll always respect "smoke what you like...", and being an objective/subjective argument, it's all unwinnable and senseless. I wouldn't want to tear down anything that gives anyone joy, that's for sure.
I absolutely believe that the quality of the tobacco that's used to roll any cigar, cc or nc, makes all the difference in the world as to how it will age. A good plant grown in stellar soil, then prepared with great care is going to yield that nuance that a good nc or cc will gain with age. By the same token, they'll lose the strength and flavors they began with while they travel to nuance-ville.
It's hard to make the call. Do I smoke it now while it's awesome, or do I wait ten years and see what happens on the chance it may even be a better but very different cigar?
If I like a cigar but it's too strong and overpowering, time is going to soften it and make it "better" for me. I just have never found a cigar that needed calmed down strength-wise. It's a great tool for guys who would enjoy a milder cigar, for sure.
The longer I go and the older I get and the more I fuss and study, the more I am on board with the old cc and nc producers/rollers who say "these are best RIGHT NOW". I'm not so sure they even mean right now as opposed to letting them sit around for a long time. I think they simply mean it's best to be smoking any cigar RIGHT NOW than not smoking a cigar.
I can live with that.

so - scott thinks they don't age well, and then based on a numeric rating of cigars of a certain age, concludes that those reviewers support his theory???


doesn't say much to me...