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[Subvet642]

Geez, an awful lot of hatin' on a guy that, without whom we would not have won the WS in '04 and '07. So he lost his temper a little bit, who hasn't? Personally, I'd rather have a player who gives a damn enough to fight and scrape for every run, hit and RBI, instead of a dishrag who doesn't friggin' care.



Besides, how many of us has actually built a hospital?

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

Geez, an awful lot of hatin' on a guy that, without whom we would not have won the WS in '04 and '07. So he lost his temper a little bit, who hasn't? Personally, I'd rather have a player who gives a damn enough to fight and scrape for every run, hit and RBI, instead of a dishrag who doesn't friggin' care.

I'll grant your point, if you grant that the Yankees would not have won in 2009 without A-Rod, and thus the same slack must be given to him.

Me, I don't see things based so totally upon what one has done for my team, yet merely point out you need take a gander at what's fair for the goose. And that's my , and worth every penny.

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by The Poet

I'll grant your point, if you grant that the Yankees would not have won in 2009 without A-Rod, and thus the same slack must be given to him.

Me, I don't see things based so totally upon what one has done for my team, yet merely point out you need take a gander at what's fair for the goose. And that's my , and worth every penny.

I hear what you're sayin'. Of course, I wouldn't expect any Yankees fan to like any Red Sock; I'm talking about Red Sox fans raggin' on a Red Sox player who has done so much for the team and in the community.

[The Poet]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

I hear what you're sayin'. Of course, I wouldn't expect any Yankees fan to like any Red Sock; I'm talking about Red Sox fans raggin' on a Red Sox player who has done so much for the team and in the community.

Yeah, I got your point from the get-go. But I would protest that, to this outsider, it seems the Boston fans have even shorter memories than do most "what have you done for me lately?" fans in other cities.

For instance, take Wade Boggs. He was one of your best players for, what, ten years? He helped you to the '86 Series, and it wasn't HIM who booted Mookie's ball. Then the management decided he was done, and cut him loose. Boggs thought he still had game, so signed with the Yankees . . . AND WAS SOUNDLY BOOED WHEN HE RETURNED TO FENWAY! OK, so maybe he wouldn't have been had he not been in Pinstripes, but was that his fault?

No doubt it was all the sweeter for him when he climbed on that horse in The Bronx, however.

[Bruins Fan]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

I hear what you're sayin'. Of course, I wouldn't expect any Yankees fan to like any Red Sock; I'm talking about Red Sox fans raggin' on a Red Sox player who has done so much for the team and in the community.

Me I can't stand cry baby whiners, it's not about what you done in the past it's about know.
Ortiz is not a ball player he is a DH,I would have cut him lose last season.
I would like to see him pull his antics against, Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, or Pedro.

[taltos]

Originally Posted by Subvet642

Geez, an awful lot of hatin' on a guy that, without whom we would not have won the WS in '04 and '07. So he lost his temper a little bit, who hasn't? Personally, I'd rather have a player who gives a damn enough to fight and scrape for every run, hit and RBI, instead of a dishrag who doesn't friggin' care.



Besides, how many of us has actually built a hospital?

I am a fan of Ortiz but if you watch him after every called third strike, he could be tossed out of the game. He is a chronic complainer and is eventually going to piss off every umpire in the game. He needs to get his emotions under control. To be fair, Youk has the same problem and could have cost us a game last week when he got tossed.

[Subvet642]

Originally Posted by Bruins Fan

Me I can't stand cry baby whiners, it's not about what you done in the past it's about know.
Ortiz is not a ball player he is a DH,I would have cut him lose last season.
I would like to see him pull his antics against, Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, or Pedro.

I will have to disagree with you; I like him for what he has done, and continues to do, both on and off the field. He was at the hospital on Saturday visiting the kids, for example.

Originally Posted by taltos

I am a fan of Ortiz but if you watch him after every called third strike, he could be tossed out of the game. He is a chronic complainer and is eventually going to piss off every umpire in the game. He needs to get his emotions under control. To be fair, Youk has the same problem and could have cost us a game last week when he got tossed.

For my part, I want ball players who are emotionally as well as mentally in the game.