Tour de France 2011

[Noodles]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

It depends on what you call dope. I think most riders are clean nowadays, with all the tests. But then again, they are on a special diet to preform better, isn't that doping too?

And what if they all take it, if they all use doping it isn't cheating anymore right? They still have to train and have to have skills. You can dope me up with the best stuff in the world, it would still take me 3 days to climb the Alpe 'd Huez.

You can say the same thing about Armstrong. Majority of the pro were doping at that time. He is just better than everyone else. Access to better resources, a great supporting cast and that "attitude" that everyone hates about him, contributed to all those wins.

[tsolomon]

The taking of performance enhancing drugs is still a problem in most professional sports including baseball, football and track, but cycling seems to get the most notoriety about it.

[Don Fernando]

Originally Posted by Noodles

You can say the same thing about Armstrong. Majority of the pro were doping at that time. He is just better than everyone else. Access to better resources, a great supporting cast and that "attitude" that everyone hates about him, contributed to all those wins.

hey, I am an Armstrong fan, I was just joking around as he's the most suspected but never caught cyclist ever.

[Noodles]

Originally Posted by Don Fernando

hey, I am an Armstrong fan, I was just joking around as he's the most suspected but never caught cyclist ever.

And I'm not. But saying Contador clean is so naive. Tainted meat? Sounds like a **** movie.