Infested!

688sonarmen · 06-17-2011, 02:02 PM

EVERYTHING before it goes into the deep freeze, I'm trying not to think about it but I'm am a little worried that the freeze is going to mess up my whole stash.

NCRadioMan · 06-17-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen

EVERYTHING before it goes into the deep freeze, I'm trying not to think about it but I'm am a little worried that the freeze is going to mess up my whole stash.

Most manufacturer's, including Habanos SA, freeze them before they go to distributors and/or b&m's. It's common practice so no worries.

massphatness · 06-17-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

Most manufacturer's, including Habanos SA, freeze them before they go to distributors and/or b&m's. It's common practice so no worries.

Mr. Lovebiscuit is wise

croatan · 06-17-2011, 02:17 PM

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Mr. Lovebiscuit is wise

Yep.

Some folks have claimed to be able to tell a cigar that's been frozen from one that wasn't. I've done side by sides and couldn't tell a bit of difference.

Apoco · 06-18-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by croatan

Yep.

Some folks have claimed to be able to tell a cigar that's been frozen from one that wasn't. I've done side by sides and couldn't tell a bit of difference.

No effect at all here either. I usually do: 24 hours fridge, 72 hours deep freeze, 24 hours fridge, 12 hours room, humi. I think that is how bthe freezing science thread recommends
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emopunker2004 · 06-18-2011, 08:28 AM

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No effect at all here either. I usually do: 24 hours fridge, 72 hours deep freeze, 24 hours fridge, 12 hours room, humi. I think that is how bthe freezing science thread recommends
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yeh the freeze time varies based on your freezers temp in Celcius. My freezer is COLD. That bugger his -21* C!!

Cenookie · 06-18-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoco

No effect at all here either. I usually do: 24 hours fridge, 72 hours deep freeze, 24 hours fridge, 12 hours room, humi. I think that is how bthe freezing science thread recommends
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Same here, so far so good

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montecristo#2 · 06-18-2011, 10:17 PM

I have seen a bug in a newer box of habanos - so I am not so sure about their freezing process.

I still inspect everything I receive NC or CC and store everything at 65F.

NCRadioMan · 06-19-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by montecristo#2

I have seen a bug in a newer box of habanos - so I am not so sure about their freezing process.

They do it to industry standards as Altadis does with all their handmade cigars. However, nothing full-proof.

688sonarmen · 06-19-2011, 09:03 AM

I messaged Pete Johnson on FB asking if they freeze their stock. Pete said they fumigate all their stock and once again after they are rolled. It's still way up in the air with Padron and others freezing their stock and some fumigating. Not sure what the process is for fumigating or the chemicals used if any but I'll stick to the most natural way of dealing with beetles IMO freezing. One thing I would like to know is the experts views on the two (DPG, AF, Padron, ect)

NCRadioMan · 06-19-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen

I messaged Pete Johnson on FB asking if they freeze their stock. Pete said they fumigate all their stock and once again after they are rolled. It's still way up in the air with Padron and others freezing their stock and some fumigating. Not sure what the process is for fumigating or the chemicals used if any but I'll stick to the most natural way of dealing with beetles IMO freezing. One thing I would like to know is the experts views on the two (DPG, AF, Padron, ect)

There is a video posted somewhere on here of a short tour of the Padron headquarters in Miami and he shows the freezer, with cigars in it, and says every cigar that comes in is frozen.

About 99% of the nc's I smoke are made by Pepin. I am not a big fan of AF.

I did say that most, not all, do freeze. But they all fumigate.

Don't worry about too much. Odds are, you will never see another beetle again.

Average Joe · 06-19-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen

I messaged Pete Johnson on FB asking if they freeze their stock. Pete said they fumigate all their stock and once again after they are rolled. It's still way up in the air with Padron and others freezing their stock and some fumigating. Not sure what the process is for fumigating or the chemicals used if any but I'll stick to the most natural way of dealing with beetles IMO freezing. One thing I would like to know is the experts views on the two (DPG, AF, Padron, ect)

people hate on "infused" or "flavored" acids but loves "fumigated" tatuajes.

06-19-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 688sonarmen

I messaged Pete Johnson on FB asking if they freeze their stock. Pete said they fumigate all their stock and once again after they are rolled. It's still way up in the air with Padron and others freezing their stock and some fumigating. Not sure what the process is for fumigating or the chemicals used if any but I'll stick to the most natural way of dealing with beetles IMO freezing. One thing I would like to know is the experts views on the two (DPG, AF, Padron, ect)

Fumigated with what? DDT?

688sonarmen · 06-19-2011, 09:32 AM

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Fumigated with what? DDT?

Raid I think.

kydsid · 06-19-2011, 09:37 AM

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Fumigated with what? DDT?

Nothing wrong with using DDT if they are, it is effective. Lot of myths and fallicies about DDT. But DDT isn't a fumigant.

Personally I would hope they are using Methyl Bromide, but I doubt it.

06-17-2011, 02:02 PM	#1
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: Infested! EVERYTHING before it goes into the deep freeze, I'm trying not to think about it but I'm am a little worried that the freeze is going to mess up my whole stash.

06-18-2011, 10:17 PM	#8
montecristo#2 Don't Taze me Bro! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,063 Trading: (49)	Re: Infested! I have seen a bug in a newer box of habanos - so I am not so sure about their freezing process. I still inspect everything I receive NC or CC and store everything at 65F.

06-19-2011, 09:03 AM	#10
688sonarmen Shipmate! Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: Jake Location: Norwich, Ct Posts: 2,698 Trading: (17)	Re: Infested! I messaged Pete Johnson on FB asking if they freeze their stock. Pete said they fumigate all their stock and once again after they are rolled. It's still way up in the air with Padron and others freezing their stock and some fumigating. Not sure what the process is for fumigating or the chemicals used if any but I'll stick to the most natural way of dealing with beetles IMO freezing. One thing I would like to know is the experts views on the two (DPG, AF, Padron, ect)