Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum  

Go Back   Cigar Asylum Cigar Forum > Non Cigar Specialty Forums > Misc > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-15-2008, 06:54 PM   #61
floydpink
crazy diamond
 
floydpink's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Pete
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,955
Trading: (17)
Cohiba
floydpink has disabled reputation
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

I read that in Arabic culture, showing the bottom of your shoe to another man is an insult. Throwing a shoe is a huge insult.

Now beating your wife for not being obedient enough is perfectly acceptable.
__________________
"If we weren't all crazy we would go insane"
floydpink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 07:04 PM   #62
adampc22
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
Blocked the shoe with their ginormous fuzzy hats?
thay are bear skins and thay just palice ones she was ununiformed ones also
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 07:05 PM   #63
Genetic Defect
difetosso
 
Genetic Defect's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Perry
Location: An elevator
Posts: 5,202
Trading: (5)
VR
Genetic Defect has disabled reputation
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
Blocked the shoe with their ginormous fuzzy hats?
they are stone cold
__________________
I'm an outcast riding into town alone
I got wanderlust branded deeper than the bone
Genetic Defect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 07:05 PM   #64
Genetic Defect
difetosso
 
Genetic Defect's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Perry
Location: An elevator
Posts: 5,202
Trading: (5)
VR
Genetic Defect has disabled reputation
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by adampc22 View Post
thay are bear skins and thay just palice ones she was ununiformed ones also
did you just say she has uninformed ones?
__________________
I'm an outcast riding into town alone
I got wanderlust branded deeper than the bone
Genetic Defect is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 07:12 PM   #65
Starscream
Knowhutimean, Vern?
 
Starscream's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Andy
Location: In a little town somewhere in the USA
Posts: 10,237
Trading: (4)
Partagas
Starscream is a splendid one to beholdStarscream is a splendid one to beholdStarscream is a splendid one to beholdStarscream is a splendid one to beholdStarscream is a splendid one to beholdStarscream is a splendid one to behold
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

It's a good thing our president has Jedi reflexes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB60PmtrVRE
__________________

Insert quote here.
Starscream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2008, 07:18 PM   #66
mojo65
Relocation Engineer
 
mojo65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: mark
Location: Evans,CO
Posts: 240
Trading: (4)
Punch
mojo65 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by boonedoggle View Post
well, almost literally. Man, this is LOL funny! I bet he thought he was throwing Ninja stars or something.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...26716&src=news
If he would have tried that a few years ago, He wouldn't have seen the sun set.
__________________
Mark,
I'LL TAKE MY GUNS, RELIGION & MONEY... YOU CAN KEEP THE CHANGE!
mojo65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 12:53 AM   #67
Snake Hips
Götterdämmerung
 
Snake Hips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
First Name: Tyler
Location: Directly above the center of the Earth
Posts: 1,013
Trading: (10)
Bolivar
Snake Hips will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by spincycle View Post
Seem like many of the world leaders have quick reflexes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvjfJ6bAi0U

Canada's former Prime Minister takes down a protester.
Didn't do so well this time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afp9H...eature=related
Snake Hips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 12:56 AM   #68
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 71,440
Trading: (60)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snake Hips View Post
I would have eaten that pie before any stuck to my face.

Seriously, though, ya gotta love Canada....they hit their politicians with pies instead of shooting at them. I like it.

Imagine, we could have had Abe Lincoln around another 20 years if John Wilkes Booth had a blueberry pie instead of a gun.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Tır and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 06:01 AM   #69
Doogie
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChicagoWhiteSox View Post
i agree, the SS should have been all over that guy after the first shoe
there maybe some reassigned SS after this
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 09:34 AM   #70
Dgar
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

I'm thinking sometime in the past Bush must have played competitive dodgeball, The boy had some quick moves.

I recorded this last night, and laughed everytime I saw it... whether you love or hate Bush, the look on his face was pricless. I think Bush was even humored by it, when you watch the tape, as the SS was coming towards Bush to protect him, he puts his arm out to stop them he was not worried one bit.

BUSH Dodgeball MVP of 2008
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 10:32 AM   #71
replicant_argent
Gravy Boat Winnah.
 
replicant_argent's Avatar
6
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Pete
Location: my attorney has advised against giving this information to insane people
Posts: 5,326
Trading: (22)
LGC
replicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to allreplicant_argent is a name known to all
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by floydpink View Post
I read that in Arabic culture, showing the bottom of your shoe to another man is an insult. Throwing a shoe is a huge insult.

Now beating your wife for not being obedient enough is perfectly acceptable.
Well, I suppose if you were walking around in a place where there might be dog piles, refuse, rotting offal piles, and who knows what, you might have something offensive on the bottom of your shoe and yeah, showing it to someone might have a reaction. Personally, I don't want to visit or live in places with garbage, dog crap, or other vile stuff so common you might step in it. I really can't think of anything else that might form some rational basis for the whole "bottom of the shoe insult" thing. I find it amusing though.

As far as throwing your shoe as a common insult, or to be so common as to have some relevance or tradition? That's just plain funny.


Scene: Two guys facing off......

Guy 1: shows the bottom of his shoe to guy two.

Guy 2: gets his panties in a bunch

Guy 1: sneers and shows the other shoe sole to Guy 2.

Guy 2: starts shaking uncontrollably, pops a vein in his forehead, bugs eyes. Takes off shoe and throws it at Guy 1.

Guy 1: dodges Shoe 1 from Guy 2.

Guy 2: Gets redder in the face. Removes Shoe 2, and missiles it at Guy 1.


Guy 1: smiles, because that is what he has been waiting for. Chases down Moron Boy 2 in bare feet and beats the ever loving stuffing out of him, catching him easily because he was dumb enough to throw both shoes at Guy 1, and can't run through garbage strewn street without puncturing his tender extremities on sharp detritus.
__________________
www.stogietorch.com
Some days call for a stiff Pomade.
replicant_argent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 10:57 AM   #72
muziq
Local Artard
 
muziq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Here and there...no, there...
Posts: 212
Trading: (4)
ERdM Army (Served With Honor)
muziq is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

This is mostly what I've heard about the insult-factor associated with shoes, soles in Islam: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-the-shoe.html

"The shoe is such an offensive symbol that it is seen as culturally rude to cross an ankle over a knee and display the sole of the shoe while talking to another person.

"The shoe is also considered unclean in the Muslim faith and believers must remove them before prayers.

"Wearing shoes in mosques is forbidden.
__________________
muziq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 12:23 PM   #73
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 71,440
Trading: (60)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by BamBam View Post
That really surprises me. As soon as that guy began to move forward in an aggressive fashion the SS should have been all over him. It took way too long for the SS too react. I am truly surprised at that seeing as how good they typically are.
I think it would have been much different if it had happened in the U.S. I think the last thing Bush wanted for U.S. image is to have the SS beating the pulp out of an Iraqi journalist for throwing a shoe.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Tır and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 05:14 PM   #74
BamBam
Just Pipin'
 
BamBam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,299
Trading: (37)
Montecristo
BamBam will become famous soon enoughBamBam will become famous soon enough
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by icehog3 View Post
I think it would have been much different if it had happened in the U.S. I think the last thing Bush wanted for U.S. image is to have the SS beating the pulp out of an Iraqi journalist for throwing a shoe.
I didn't say anything about unnecessary force and I agree that they shouldn't beat him to a pulp. I also don't feel that geography should affect how you react when protecting the President.

The SS is a very professional organization and they shouldn't be beating people to a pulp without justification, such as the suspect resisting them. We definitely don't want the reputation of schoolyard bullies.

I feel they should have reacted much faster though and used the force necessary to subdue the aggressor until they gained control of the situation (which they did on the subdue part).

The first action of throwing a shoe is a sign of violence, whose to say what else he had on him. Luckily the second thing he threw was only his other shoe.

I think the part that really concerned me is that they didn't remove the President from a volatile situation like they should be trained to do. They left him standing there only to be protected by another country's Prime Minister. The SS is trained to act instinctively and protect the President from harm at ALL costs, even if it puts them in danger. I just feel they failed to react appropriately.
BamBam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 07:23 PM   #75
icehog3
Admiral Douchebag
 
icehog3's Avatar
15
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Tom
Location: Clermont, Kentucky
Posts: 71,440
Trading: (60)
HUpmann
icehog3 has disabled reputation
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by BamBam View Post
I didn't say anything about unnecessary force and I agree that they shouldn't beat him to a pulp. I also don't feel that geography should affect how you react when protecting the President.

The SS is a very professional organization and they shouldn't be beating people to a pulp without justification, such as the suspect resisting them. We definitely don't want the reputation of schoolyard bullies.

I feel they should have reacted much faster though and used the force necessary to subdue the aggressor until they gained control of the situation (which they did on the subdue part).

The first action of throwing a shoe is a sign of violence, whose to say what else he had on him. Luckily the second thing he threw was only his other shoe.

I think the part that really concerned me is that they didn't remove the President from a volatile situation like they should be trained to do. They left him standing there only to be protected by another country's Prime Minister. The SS is trained to act instinctively and protect the President from harm at ALL costs, even if it puts them in danger. I just feel they failed to react appropriately.
Wasn't trying to take an adversarial position, just offering the possibility of political reasons for the restraint. I agree with much of what you say.
__________________


Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Tır and Mr. Mark!
icehog3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2008, 11:57 PM   #76
GoatLocker
Dr of Quantum Inebrionics
 
GoatLocker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
First Name: Eric
Location: Sandy Eggo
Posts: 434
Trading: (1)
Cohiba Navy (Active)
GoatLocker has disabled reputation
Default Re: Bush gets the shoe!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgar View Post
I'm thinking sometime in the past Bush must have played competitive dodgeball, The boy had some quick moves.
__________________
"I drink a great deal. I sleep a little, and I smoke cigar after cigar. That is why I am in two-hundred-percent form." Winston Churchill
GoatLocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All content is copyrighted jointly by Cigar Asylum and the content provider.