Rant: Cigar Bums

pnoon · 01-25-2011, 12:56 PM

If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish.

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.
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Noodles · 01-25-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish.

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.
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Well said, Peter.

markem · 01-25-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.

See? That's why I don't give you sticks, Peter.

pnoon · 01-25-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by markem

See? That's why I don't give you sticks, Peter.

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Brian D. · 01-25-2011, 01:29 PM

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks.

macsauce13 · 01-25-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian D.

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks.

Was this Strauss by chance?

bobarian · 01-25-2011, 01:47 PM

I really dont run into the same people as the OP. When I give a cigar, its because I want to share and what that person does once its given is up to them. I might feel bad if they threw it on the ground but I would never regret having given. Price of the cigar really has no bearing. I dont look at my cigars in terms of money, they are kind of like groceries, once the money is spent its all the same.

elderboy02 · 01-25-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian D.

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks.

You must have been at Straus

LasciviousXXX · 01-25-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian D.

This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks.

Perhaps we would have..... or a dollar. Either way, it does seem that this thread has shown the differences in approach that everyone has.

Zeuceone · 01-25-2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian D.

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks.

At my local B&M lounge, we had a homeless man come by and sit outside to smoke a nub left in an ashtray. The owner didn't mind as long as he didn't bother anyone. Well a few minutes pass by and the cops show up to talk to him. We later find out that he was next door at the starbucks where one of the employees told him to leave, but he refused. He yelled at the employee and ended up leaving. The reason the wanted him out was due to him being butt naked in the bathroom showering.

macsauce13 · 01-25-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elderboy02

You must have been at Straus

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Originally Posted by macsauce13

Was this Strauss by chance?

smokinpeace · 01-25-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeuceone

The reason the wanted him out was due to him being butt naked in the bathroom showering.

Is that wrong? Cause if I knew that kind of thing was frowned upon when I started here...

Zeuceone · 01-25-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by smokinpeace

Is that wrong? Cause if I knew that kind of thing was frowned upon when I started here...

Lol well try locking the door when you do it.

cmitch · 01-27-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian D.

This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.)

A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go.

Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it.

Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks.

Oh, so you've met that kind, too.

Steve · 01-25-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish.

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.
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A wise man you are...

benedic08 · 01-25-2011, 02:33 PM

Im also a chain cigarette smoker but that doesn't mean i cant enjoy a cigar. I smoke about 2 packs of cigarettes a day plus a cigar or 2 sometimes more in between. And i give cigars to those who want to try it. Even if i just met someone and they're curious about a cigar i'll give them one so that maybe i can lure them down the slippery slope! XD

Everytime i go somewhere and i have my traveldor with me i expect that my traveldor will be empty by the time i go home from smoking and giving people sticks.

cmitch · 01-27-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish.

If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it.
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It is really quite amazing how many different directions and opinions came from this rant. Hmm. I don't think I was attaching strings to anything. My rant was about people I didn't know who thinks they can bum a cigar like they bum a cigarette. That's all.

pnoon · 01-27-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cmitch

It is really quite amazing how many different directions and opinions came from this rant. Hmm. I don't think I was attaching strings to anything. My rant was about people I didn't know who thinks they can bum a cigar like they bum a cigarette. That's all.

Interesting that you would take my post so personally. If you re-read the thread you'll find the conversation may have drifted somewhat from what you inteded to discuss. Also, you will see that my post was not a direct reply to what you stated at the start. My post (and my point) stands on its own.

On behalf of all those who strayed from what you wanted to discuss, we are sorry.
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cmitch · 01-27-2011, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pnoon

Interesting that you would take my post so personally. If you re-read the thread you'll find the conversation may have drifted somewhat from what you inteded to discuss. Also, you will see that my post was not a direct reply to what you stated at the start. My post (and my point) stands on its own.

On behalf of all those who strayed from what you wanted to discuss, we are sorry.
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Apparently I misunderstood your intent. But I didn't take it 'personally'. I see what you were driving at.

I think this thread has opened up a great discussion and it has given me many ideas on how to counter this nicely.

icehog3 · 01-27-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cmitch

I think this thread has opened up a great discussion and it has given me many ideas on how to counter this nicely.

Excellent. Can I have a cigar?

01-25-2011, 12:56 PM	#1
pnoon YNWA Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Peter Location: San Diego Posts: 29,919 Trading: (20)	Re: Rant: Cigar Bums If I give/gift someone a cigar, it is theirs to do with as they wish. If it is given with strings attached then it is not really a gift. I would never give someone a cigar if I have to dictate what they do with it or demand that they enjoy it. Posted via Mobile Device

01-25-2011, 01:29 PM	#5
Brian D. Have My Own Room Join Date: Jan 2009 First Name: Brian Location: SW Ohio Posts: 1,670 Trading: (1)	Re: Rant: Cigar Bums This a funny topic for me to stumble across today. This morning I was at the B&M in downtown Cincinnati. (As you may know, tobacconist shops in Ohio are about the only legal places to smoke indoors nowadays. Anyhow, this sometimes leads to..uh, an interesting mix of non-customers coming in merely to be out of the cold.) A scruffy guy of the above type comes in and sits down for a few minutes. He was not in anybody's way but the employees were keeping an eye on him, so was I for that matter. He said nothing until he saw that my mostly-smoked cigar was perched in the ashtray. His question was "Are you gonna finish that?". I replied that I indeed would be finishing it. That's when the employees told him that it was time to go. Several minutes later, after said stogie was done and at the bottom of the ashtray, covered with ashes and no longer lit, same gent popped in long enough to swipe it. Thankfully this is not a frequent occurence there. This thread does make it seem like some of you might have been much more kindly than I was, maybe you could have given him one of your best ISOM sticks. __________________ Any gathering that includes Elderboy02 is "NKA"-- --No Ketchup Allowed.

01-25-2011, 01:47 PM	#7
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: Rant: Cigar Bums I really dont run into the same people as the OP. When I give a cigar, its because I want to share and what that person does once its given is up to them. I might feel bad if they threw it on the ground but I would never regret having given. Price of the cigar really has no bearing. I dont look at my cigars in terms of money, they are kind of like groceries, once the money is spent its all the same.

01-25-2011, 02:33 PM	#16
benedic08 Bob's great grandson Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Benedic Location: Hot and Wet Manila Posts: 530 Trading: (8)	Re: Rant: Cigar Bums Im also a chain cigarette smoker but that doesn't mean i cant enjoy a cigar. I smoke about 2 packs of cigarettes a day plus a cigar or 2 sometimes more in between. And i give cigars to those who want to try it. Even if i just met someone and they're curious about a cigar i'll give them one so that maybe i can lure them down the slippery slope! XD Everytime i go somewhere and i have my traveldor with me i expect that my traveldor will be empty by the time i go home from smoking and giving people sticks.