Jay Cutler

fhrblig · 01-25-2011, 08:25 AM

Okay, I never expected to post anything defending Jay Cutler ever, after the way he left the Broncos. (I can totally understand being upset finding out the new coach almost traded you, but not talking to the owner of the team when he calls you to try to sort it out is not acceptable. It's a business, stop acting like a two-year-old.)

All this crap about him not being tough enough because he left the game with a legit knee injury is maddening. I saw him that last series he was in and he was not moving well. When he is not 100%, he makes mistakes. BAD ones. If you can't go, you can't go. I used to like Maurice Jones-Drew before he wrote that tweet about how he played all season with a bad knee. Really? Good for you. Did you make it to the Super Bowl? No? Maybe you should have gotten treatment, then. I truly hope you enjoy not being able to climb a flight of stairs when you're 40. When you can't get out of bed without someone to help you, don't come crying to me.

I saw another comment from someone saying that "Philip Rivers must be laughing his ass off right now." Yeah. From his couch, where he ALWAYS WATCHES THE PLAYOFFS. ALWAYS.

Noodles · 01-25-2011, 08:55 AM

I can understand why players and former players who are criticizing him are coming from.

I can also understand his teammates defending him in public.

Clay Mathews comment about them making Cutler quit ain't helping.

Cutler is a gamer. However, he has that I don't care look on his face. He needs to be fiery ala Jeff Garcia (Only Eagles fan will get this joke

).

Bob - When he was in Denver, did he ever checked out on any of the games that you can remember?

chand · 01-25-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bonggoy

I can understand why players and former players who are criticizing him are coming from.

I can also understand his teammates defending him in public.

Clay Mathews comment about them making Cutler quit ain't helping.

Cutler is a gamer. However, he has that I don't care look on his face. He needs to be fiery ala Jeff Garcia (Only Eagles fan will get this joke

).

Bob - When he was in Denver, did he ever checked out on any of the games that you can remember?

Cutler seems to have reputation from the media for being aloof and disinterested. This is what's feeding the feeding frenzy. I've seen and heard some of his interviews that he gets heat over. I can't say I'd act much different in a similar situations such as fielding stupid questions from the local and national reporters. I don't know if that says something about Cutler or something about me.

Volusianator · 01-25-2011, 09:13 AM

I think it's kind of simple really, if his knee was REALLY THAT BAD, why was he walking around the entire second half in 10 degree temps?

JDTexan · 01-25-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator

I think it's kind of simple really, if his knee was REALLY THAT BAD, why was he walking around the entire second half in 10 degree temps?

You are correct sir, I think he checked out even though he had an injury he checked out mentally. Oh well, they lost just the same.

Noodles · 01-25-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator

I think it's kind of simple really, if his knee was REALLY THAT BAD, why was he walking around the entire second half in 10 degree temps?

From what I heard, it was the team doctors who ordered that he not play anymore. Not sure if Cutler contested it though. I would imagine playing QB effectively is a lot more difficult under these circumstances.

fhrblig · 01-25-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bonggoy

I can understand why players and former players who are criticizing him are coming from.

I can also understand his teammates defending him in public.

Clay Mathews comment about them making Cutler quit ain't helping.

Cutler is a gamer. However, he has that I don't care look on his face. He needs to be fiery ala Jeff Garcia (Only Eagles fan will get this joke

).

Bob - When he was in Denver, did he ever checked out on any of the games that you can remember?

Honestlly? I can't remember one. I can remember plenty where I wished he had. Damn, those red zone interceptions were terrible.
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E.J. · 01-25-2011, 09:27 AM

The guy has an MCL sprain right? Didn’t Tom Brady play through a stress fracture in his foot? IMO and only my opinion, things were not going well and it was as good of excuse as any to turn the keys over to someone else. I think a gamer would have had to be pulled off the field kicking and screaming.

Even if his pain threshold is as weak as his chin, the guy could have been up watching the game, giving input to the guy that replaces him and other offensive players. He could have tried to help his team in any way possible.

My views are biased, as I do not like Jay Cutler. I do not like him throwing fits, I do not like him when he quits. I don’t like Jay Cutler, Sam-I-Am.

Let me add, I don't know why a team doctor would order him not to play. Though painful, playing on a sprained MCL isn't going to hold you out... People play with sprained MCL's all the time....not uncommon.

loki · 01-25-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by E.J.

The guy has an MCL sprain right? Didn’t Tom Brady play through a stress fracture in his foot?

i think ben is still playing with a broken foot, palamalu's Achilles still isn't healed, and i'll be shocked if pouncy doesn't play with a high ankle sprain.

as for cutler, you act like an asshole you get treated like an asshole

fhrblig · 01-25-2011, 09:53 AM

Just saw where Philip Rivers said "I'd have to be taken off on a cart'. What, from your couch? 'Cause during the playoffs, that's where you are.
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Volusianator · 01-25-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fhrblig

Just saw where Philip Rivers said "I'd have to be taken off on a cart'. What, from your couch? 'Cause during the playoffs, that's where you are.
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Whoa, trash talkin' after a Divisional Championship loss!

By the way, Drew Brees played the second half of the season with a sprained MCL.

icehog3 · 01-25-2011, 10:11 AM

Caleb Hanie for President!

Volusianator · 01-25-2011, 10:13 AM

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Caleb Hanie for President!

That dude had game, and scared the crap outta me. I told my wife, the worst thing for the Packers is to take Cutler out, all we needed was some young buck with something to prove. Hanie is that young buck.

Bunker · 01-25-2011, 10:15 AM

Jay Cutler is the second coming of Jeff George, talented, strong arm, wild at times, no heart.

icehog3 · 01-25-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator

That dude had game, and scared the crap outta me. I told my wife, the worst thing for the Packers is to take Cutler out, all we needed was some young buck with something to prove. Hanie is that young buck.

He gave us hope....twice.

Not sure if I love him or hate him, Wade.

fhrblig · 01-25-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Volusianator

Whoa, trash talkin' after a Divisional Championship loss!

By the way, Drew Brees played the second half of the season with a sprained MCL.

Yes, and Drew Brees is defending Cutler.
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jitzy · 01-25-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fhrblig

I saw another comment from someone saying that "Philip Rivers must be laughing his ass off right now." Yeah. From his couch, where he ALWAYS WATCHES THE PLAYOFFS. ALWAYS.

Rivers played in 7 playoff games and one of them when he had a complete tear not a sprain, Cutler has played in one, well almost one he quit early on. The injury he has is minor and players play with that all the time. I understand your a fan and they did great getting to the playoffs but as far as what he did he should be embarrased to have been walking along the sidelines after he said his knee hurt.

01-25-2011, 10:27 AM

Here's one thought about the sprain/grade 2 tear in his MCL that Cutler has. Having a week to get the right brace (fitted for him) would have allowed him to play following weeks. The key with a knee injury like that is giving it the required stability to perform the required movements by a QB. Could the Bears have gotten all that done during the game? I don't know.

On the other hand I will agree with Wade, in that why the he!! was he walking around the sidelines without ice on his knee, and not on crutches (or whatever)? That's what doesn't make sense about the whole thing.

Volusianator · 01-25-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jitzy

Rivers played in 7 playoff games and one of them when he had a complete tear not a sprain, Cutler has played in one, well almost one he quit early on. The injury he has is minor and players play with that all the time. I understand your a fan and they did great getting to the playoffs but as far as what he did he should be embarrased to have been walking along the sidelines after he said his knee hurt.

Where's the "like" button...oh, that's on Facebook.

Volusianator · 01-25-2011, 10:30 AM

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Not sure if I love him or hate him, Wade.

I know what you're saying, but you can't knock the kid too much. Hell, he has no game experience, he played well under an EXTREME amount of pressure, then he made a bad decision. He was a part of what cost the Bears the game, but in the end, he almost pulled it off with little to no experience. Could be your future.

01-25-2011, 08:25 AM	#1
fhrblig Real cars have 3 pedals Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Bob Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 211 Trading: (0)	Jay Cutler Okay, I never expected to post anything defending Jay Cutler ever, after the way he left the Broncos. (I can totally understand being upset finding out the new coach almost traded you, but not talking to the owner of the team when he calls you to try to sort it out is not acceptable. It's a business, stop acting like a two-year-old.) All this crap about him not being tough enough because he left the game with a legit knee injury is maddening. I saw him that last series he was in and he was not moving well. When he is not 100%, he makes mistakes. BAD ones. If you can't go, you can't go. I used to like Maurice Jones-Drew before he wrote that tweet about how he played all season with a bad knee. Really? Good for you. Did you make it to the Super Bowl? No? Maybe you should have gotten treatment, then. I truly hope you enjoy not being able to climb a flight of stairs when you're 40. When you can't get out of bed without someone to help you, don't come crying to me. I saw another comment from someone saying that "Philip Rivers must be laughing his ass off right now." Yeah. From his couch, where he ALWAYS WATCHES THE PLAYOFFS. ALWAYS.

01-25-2011, 08:55 AM	#2
Noodles Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 412 Trading: (2)	Re: Jay Cutler I can understand why players and former players who are criticizing him are coming from. I can also understand his teammates defending him in public. Clay Mathews comment about them making Cutler quit ain't helping. Cutler is a gamer. However, he has that I don't care look on his face. He needs to be fiery ala Jeff Garcia (Only Eagles fan will get this joke ). Bob - When he was in Denver, did he ever checked out on any of the games that you can remember?

01-25-2011, 09:13 AM	#4
Volusianator Bikes, Babes & Cigars! Join Date: Feb 2009 First Name: Wade Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 1,438 Trading: (17)	Re: Jay Cutler I think it's kind of simple really, if his knee was REALLY THAT BAD, why was he walking around the entire second half in 10 degree temps? __________________ Overtime pays more because of what you're missing, money isn't everything.

01-25-2011, 09:27 AM	#8
E.J. I'm nuts for the place Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,218 Trading: (21)	Re: Jay Cutler The guy has an MCL sprain right? Didn’t Tom Brady play through a stress fracture in his foot? IMO and only my opinion, things were not going well and it was as good of excuse as any to turn the keys over to someone else. I think a gamer would have had to be pulled off the field kicking and screaming. Even if his pain threshold is as weak as his chin, the guy could have been up watching the game, giving input to the guy that replaces him and other offensive players. He could have tried to help his team in any way possible. My views are biased, as I do not like Jay Cutler. I do not like him throwing fits, I do not like him when he quits. I don’t like Jay Cutler, Sam-I-Am. Let me add, I don't know why a team doctor would order him not to play. Though painful, playing on a sprained MCL isn't going to hold you out... People play with sprained MCL's all the time....not uncommon.

01-25-2011, 09:53 AM	#10
fhrblig Real cars have 3 pedals Join Date: May 2010 First Name: Bob Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 211 Trading: (0)	Re: Jay Cutler Just saw where Philip Rivers said "I'd have to be taken off on a cart'. What, from your couch? 'Cause during the playoffs, that's where you are. Posted via Mobile Device

01-25-2011, 10:11 AM	#12
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,889 Trading: (60)	Re: Jay Cutler Caleb Hanie for President! __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!

01-25-2011, 10:15 AM	#14
Bunker New hardware installed. Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: Rick Location: Moonbatachusetts Posts: 950 Trading: (18)	Re: Jay Cutler Jay Cutler is the second coming of Jeff George, talented, strong arm, wild at times, no heart. __________________ "Good is good, even if no one is doing it - and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it."

01-25-2011, 10:27 AM	#18
Wanger Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Jay Cutler Here's one thought about the sprain/grade 2 tear in his MCL that Cutler has. Having a week to get the right brace (fitted for him) would have allowed him to play following weeks. The key with a knee injury like that is giving it the required stability to perform the required movements by a QB. Could the Bears have gotten all that done during the game? I don't know. On the other hand I will agree with Wade, in that why the he!! was he walking around the sidelines without ice on his knee, and not on crutches (or whatever)? That's what doesn't make sense about the whole thing.