J! E! T! S! Jets! Jets! Jets!

[shilala]

Originally Posted by ujponds

I know, I'm just tired of people chalking every win up as luck. He did get a little push off but Lacey wasn't even looking for the ball.

Mark, I don't know about "luck", but the Colts were missing 11 starting players from their defense, among lots of other problems.
The Jets just plain didn't play well. I can't pick any single player on the team and say "he had a really good game". If they don't take it up a lot of notches, they're gonna have their hands full next week.
I can remember not so long ago a Pittsburgh Steeler team who went 15-1, only to NOT take home a Super Bowl ring. 20 wins in two seasons means nothing if you don't take home the prize, and they sure didnt look like a team that's gonna take home the prize.

I was a big Sanchez fan last year. All the pre-season talk about the Jets being the second coming
of Christ really put a burr up my ass, probably as much as the "luck" comments have pissed you off. Problem is, if you want your team to be considered great, they gotta go the distance. A team can only survive on decimated opposition and favorable bounces for so long. Sooner or later they gotta come out the gate and play like they can really play. Granted I haven't seen more than a handful of Jets games this year, but so far I'm more or less unimpressed. Sanchez is a big disappointment, as far as I'm concerned. I feel he's playing way beneath his grade. Whether it's him or the coaching, I don't know, but there's a kid with all the talent in the world who's throwing like Jake Delhomme.

[ujponds]

Originally Posted by shilala

Mark, I don't know about "luck", but the Colts were missing 11 starting players from their defense, among lots of other problems.
The Jets just plain didn't play well. I can't pick any single player on the team and say "he had a really good game". If they don't take it up a lot of notches, they're gonna have their hands full next week.
I can remember not so long ago a Pittsburgh Steeler team who went 15-1, only to NOT take home a Super Bowl ring. 20 wins in two seasons means nothing if you don't take home the prize, and they sure didnt look like a team that's gonna take home the prize.

I was a big Sanchez fan last year. All the pre-season talk about the Jets being the second coming
of Christ really put a burr up my ass, probably as much as the "luck" comments have pissed you off. Problem is, if you want your team to be considered great, they gotta go the distance. A team can only survive on decimated opposition and favorable bounces for so long. Sooner or later they gotta come out the gate and play like they can really play. Granted I haven't seen more than a handful of Jets games this year, but so far I'm more or less unimpressed. Sanchez is a big disappointment, as far as I'm concerned. I feel he's playing way beneath his grade. Whether it's him or the coaching, I don't know, but there's a kid with all the talent in the world who's throwing like Jake Delhomme.

I have been defending Sanchez all season and I think it is getting a little old, people are going to see what they want to see. I see a second year QB that has two winning seasons and followed them up with solid play in the post season. Has he played perfect? No, some missed throws an int here and there. As a second year QB his job is to make a good throw here and there and not give the game away, which I think he is doing pretty well. There were several situations during the season where he was asked to bring the team back and win the game and he came through. Is he Tom Brady or Peyton Manning? No. . . What I will say is that he is doing better at this point in his career than Eli did.

As far as the rest of the team goes, no one can say that they are not on their way up. Do I think they are "great"? No, not yet, but Ryan HAS changed the culture. They made it to the Championship last year and followed it up with a return to the Playoffs and a win this year. Injuries or not, beating Peyton at home in the Playoffs is something.

To expect a Super Bowl the second year of a new regime with a new QB is a little unrealistic. ANY coach that is hired is usually given 3 years or should be. Whatever happens I think two years in a row of advancing in the Playoffs is a good START. Yes eventually they have to make it to the Super Bowl and win, but they are a hell of alot closer now than they were two years ago with Mangini and Pennington/ Favre.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by ujponds

I have been defending Sanchez all season and I think it is getting a little old, people are going to see what they want to see. I see a second year QB that has two winning seasons and followed them up with solid play in the post season. Has he played perfect? No, some missed throws an int here and there. As a second year QB his job is to make a good throw here and there and not give the game away, which I think he is doing pretty well. There were several situations during the season where he was asked to bring the team back and win the game and he came through. Is he Tom Brady or Peyton Manning? No. . . What I will say is that he is doing better at this point in his career than Eli did.

As far as the rest of the team goes, no one can say that they are not on their way up. Do I think they are "great"? No, not yet, but Ryan HAS changed the culture. They made it to the Championship last year and followed it up with a return to the Playoffs and a win this year. Injuries or not, beating Peyton at home in the Playoffs is something.

To expect a Super Bowl the second year of a new regime with a new QB is a little unrealistic. ANY coach that is hired is usually given 3 years or should be. Whatever happens I think two years in a row of advancing in the Playoffs is a good START. Yes eventually they have to make it to the Super Bowl and win, but they are a hell of alot closer now than they were two years ago with
Mangini and Pennington/ Favre.

I think you and I are pretty much on the same page.
I never expected anything of the Jets the last two years, and I think they're winning at a much higher percentage than I'd have ever guessed. I just don't think they're playing to their potential, or at least to their supposed potential.
The song that the talking heads and sportswriters were singing prior to this year's startup was that they were heavily favored to take the Super Bowl this year. Same thing last year.
Like I mentioned earlier, that's my rub. I think they're playing right at a level where they should be, and probably winning at a higher percentage than they should be. I don't think the club is all that incredibly stacked or super talented. A couple key injuries and a couple bad bounces and they're a 6 or 7 win club. I do have to concede that they took away some games that looked lost. I should probably give them more credit for that.
I'm really starting to fear that The Dirty is more likely to wash out than become a marquee quarterback. That's a bummer for me, cause I like the kid.
I suppose I'm just jealous cause of all the press they got that I felt was
misplaced.
I tell ya what, if they so much as put up a fight against Brady next week, I'll eat my words.

[ujponds]

Originally Posted by shilala

I think you and I are pretty much on the same page.
I never expected anything of the Jets the last two years, and I think they're winning at a much higher percentage than I'd have ever guessed. I just don't think they're playing to their potential, or at least to their supposed potential.
The song that the talking heads and sportswriters were singing prior to this year's startup was that they were heavily favored to take the Super Bowl this year. Same thing last year.
Like I mentioned earlier, that's my rub. I think they're playing right at a level where they should be, and probably winning at a higher percentage than they should be. I don't think the club is all that incredibly stacked or super talented. A couple key injuries and a couple bad bounces and they're a 6 or 7 win club. I do have to concede that they took away some games that looked lost. I should probably give them more credit for that.
I'm really starting to fear that The Dirty is more likely to wash out than become a marquee quarterback. That's a bummer for me, cause I like the kid.
I suppose I'm just jealous cause of all the press they got that I felt was
misplaced.
I tell ya what, if they so much as put up a fight against Brady next week, I'll eat my words.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by ujponds

Consider them ate.
After that showing against New England, I'm actually concerned about them coming to Pittsburgh this weekend.

[DBall]

Originally Posted by shilala

Consider them ate.
After that showing against New England, I'm actually concerned about them coming to Pittsburgh this weekend.

One can only hope that the same team that beat the Pats shows up against the Steelers... I, for one, am quite excited for Sunday!!!

[TheRiddick]

Originally Posted by DBall

One can only hope that the same team that beat the Pats shows up against the Steelers... I, for one, am quite excited for Sunday!!!

They did show up against Steelers once this season already, didn't they? As the game went this past Sunday I kept thinking that maybe, just maybe Ryan deliberately "tanked" the 45-3 game to set NE up... Naaah, can't be, it would be too good to be true...

[Blueface]

The former NY'r in me says GO JETS!

[TonySmith]

you guys got a plan B?

[TonySmith]

Nice pass play

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by TonySmith

Nice pass play

At Least It Should Be An Interesting 2nd Half!