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|  12-21-2010, 02:34 PM | #1 | 
| I barely grok the obvious |  Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			Heads up, shoppers.  I regret to advise that the once stout, reliable Czech multi-tool sold by JR Cigars (and just about everyone else) has been replaced at the JR/Selma, NC, store with a sorry look alike. It is a flimsy stamped PAS and smaller in all dimensions. It retains the characteristic patterning on the tamper arm but it is a whole new ballgame.  Heads up, JR's. I'd pay the extra dime for the other one. Here's a sock full of ashes for JR Merchandising...       
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|  12-21-2010, 02:37 PM | #2 | 
| Have My Own Room |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			Honestly, I'm more surprised to hear they once carried a quality product.
		 
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|  12-21-2010, 02:41 PM | #3 | 
| Adopted MassHole |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			Dan, I quit shopping at JR's for anything pipe-related, once I figured out their shipping & handling for pipe tobacco.  I think they are only concerned with cigar sales and pipes are an afterthought. Charlie 
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|  12-21-2010, 03:36 PM | #4 | |
| I barely grok the obvious |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar Quote: 
 If I had to order online I'd probably look elsewhere and feel different about it. 
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|  12-21-2010, 04:30 PM | #5 | 
| Have My Own Room |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			Dan the selma store is not that far from me and I will not lie it has not even been a consideration up till now.  I will have to check it out in the spring.
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|  12-28-2010, 03:01 PM | #6 | 
| I Need A Beer!! |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			This is why I've pretty much gone over to a pipe nail exclusively.
		 
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|  12-29-2010, 01:41 PM | #7 | 
| Not Scary |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			i think the czech tool is absolutely the worst "tool" to use for tamping, etc. http://iht-apipesmokerscognition.blo...4/tampers.html 
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|  01-03-2011, 12:03 AM | #9 | 
| Feeling at Home |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			Thanks for the heads up, Dan! I do like to keep a couple of Czech tools around, but usually find myself grabbing for other tampers first. One of the best I've come across is a stainless Savinelli tool (pictured bottom). I find it handy because the tamper is hinged, so you can easily adjust its angle.    | 
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|  01-03-2011, 03:55 AM | #10 | |
| Opa!!   |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar Quote: 
 Sucks to hear that they would carry a different czech tool. If it ain't broke, don't fix it seems fitting for this situation. 
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|  01-05-2011, 02:32 PM | #11 | 
| I barely grok the obvious |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			My wrists are hinged.  I can use any tamper with total comfort and precision.  Own up to your limits and have the surgery.  Do both arms, too, not just the one. Unlike Curly Cut I LOVE the Czech multi tool. First - they are like an old reliable friend, always shiny, always there and (up til now) always unchanging (at JR's). Second - they were so cheap I never thought twice about buying a bunch for handouts, or losing them or using them to improperly force something ("Don't do that, son.") enough that it might damage the tool itself. Third - they enhance my wardrobe; the Czech tamper always lifts out a few embers that, sooner or later, fall on my shirts, jackets or trousers and as everything gradually turns to lace, Mrs. Moo takes me out for new shirts, etc. I especially like that third aspect of the Czech multi tool. I suggest to Mrs. Moo that perhaps we should go to JR's to replace those see-thru shirts and jeans cause they're on sale over there and (bingo!) so's that wine you like. So I get a new cowboy shirt, a few more bandanas, she gets wine and then I go to the humidor and buy more Czech multi tools and a few more tins of Rattrays or Escudo. It was even more fun before Dunhill crapped out. It is also the last one I reach for - they are the spares that hang in glove compartments, in the pipe bag pocket and in the backs of man-drawers behind spent brass casings, battered compass, pencils and expired drivers licenses. I actually prefer the fake cheap multi tool though. They lift out even more embers to burn my shirts insuring more trips to JR's and more new cowboy shirts. 
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|  01-15-2011, 07:30 AM | #12 | 
| WiP!? |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			I like my Czech tool. It's handy to have around. But I also like my Mr. C brass tool and JoeD tamper I got awhile back. Good stuff. To be honest I can't say I notice a difference in how any of them tamp down the tobacco.
		 
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|  02-11-2011, 11:15 AM | #13 | 
| Just in from the Storm |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			In almost 50 years of pipe smoking I have never owned a Czech tool.  Always had a pipe nail or a Brebbia nail, though. Or a golf tee -- I'm thinking about breaking out the extra long golf tees that came with a cob order from Aristocob!   And I'm hurt, HURT I tell you, that you didn't recognize the great artistry and craftsmanship that went into those wooden tampers I sent you, Moo! 
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|  02-11-2011, 12:05 PM | #14 | |
| I barely grok the obvious |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar Quote: 
    (I forgot about those guys, Fr'oke - my bad. Kind thanks, of course! They're in the car waiting for me. I thought they were for sandpaper-wrap/reaming but, WTH, they'll tamp.) For those who don't already know Freestoke, he's a gent with a lot of experience, a willingness to share and a drawer full of home made wooden dowel tampers. He is also does yoga and runs amok. Since he hasn't found the Pipe-Introduction thread yet (I don't think there is one, is there?) please give him a kind welcome. 
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|  02-11-2011, 12:21 PM | #15 | 
| Feeling at Home |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar | 
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|  02-11-2011, 12:43 PM | #16 | 
| Just in from the Storm |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			I'd worry more about the dishwasher.
		 
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|  04-01-2011, 05:30 AM | #17 | 
| Adjusting to the Life |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			Years ago I was very assertive with an employee at the Burlington store regarding why, as they carried half a dozen SG tins, why they didn't carry "Best Brown," and was told derisively and directly exactly what I've quoted.
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|  05-12-2011, 11:13 AM | #18 | 
| Just in from the Storm |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			I used to be all about the Czech tools until i discovered a doctors knife. I have a couple of different styles but they all have a regular sharp blade,  a dull spatula blade thats perfect for reaming and a squared off end that I use to tamp with. Case makes an expensive one called the baby doc but I normally use a Schrade. Stops me from having to carry a pocket knife and a tamper at the same time. Now if I could just combine my car keys and my phone I'd be in great shape.  Peace Marc | 
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|  08-16-2011, 05:09 AM | #19 | 
| I barely grok the obvious |  Re: Once Great Pipe Tool Replaced with Junk at JR Cigar 
			
			Czech Republic tool is back at JR's as of August. Never mind. 
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