12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 - Page 16

markem · 12-29-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Starz26

nuff said

Indeed, you are still wrong and you proved it.

Starz26 · 12-29-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Fernando

Dude, you really don't get what Carlos and Mark tried to explain to you before right? Their suspicion was confirmed, not yours

No I get it, they have an issue with me saying "it was" Shnoop's fault, problem is I did not say it was, read above.

And what suspicion was confirmed? That is was related to a hack on visa? What about MC, Amex, Discover? Also, icehog asked directly if it was related to the Ronson purchase and Blueface replied that he feels it was. So yea, I am confused at all the twisting and ignoring of words going on here.

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Or perhaps this compromise is related to something other than the Ronson purchase, Carlos?

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Originally Posted by Blueface

Absolutely could be Tom BUT, I am not a believer in coincidences like this.
Seems folks have been posting here gradually, with the same issue.
My charges came out of Italy. Seems all are having foreign charges too.
I think it just turns out my bank contacted me, knowing someone tried to make it via their system with my personal information and they stopped them in time.
I just wonder how many others have this same issue of personal information being secured but their bank never called them as mine did me or their bank did not have that confirmation process mine did.

Starz26 · 12-29-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by markem

Indeed, you are still wrong and you proved it.

care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?

markem · 12-29-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Starz26

care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?

I'm trying to emulate you. Go back, read ALL that you wrote, and think for a good long time. Doubt that will help you, however.

Maybe you can take this new information and prove to the authorities that you've solved the case once and for all! Again!

Skywalker · 12-29-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

PS: Arganese cigars are poo-poo. So take that!

You're poo poo!

T.G · 12-29-2010, 01:46 PM

Who the frack cares where it happened?

It makes no fracking difference.

It's done. It's over. The numbers have been compromised. Nothing said here is going to change the past and likely have little to no bearing on any criminal investigation, if there even is one.

All one can do at this point is inform the other (cigar) forums that there now appears that there is a possibility that SSNs and DOBs might also have been compromised.

PS: Darrell, you're a doo-doo head!

Don Fernando · 12-29-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Starz26

care to elaborate or do you just sit there and spout out bullshit?

yawn. Janitor, where is the 'ignore' button?

edit: found it

14holestogie · 12-29-2010, 01:48 PM

Rather than trying to find some small part of everyone's post we can argue about, wouldn't we be better served to find and concentrate on the parts we can agree on?

A lot of people that bought this deal have had their credit compromised.

I have no problem with semantics when someone is trying to warn me my house is on fire.

stewshi · 12-29-2010, 01:52 PM

back to the more important parts of this thread .... has anyone else confirmed with their CC that their SS and DOB was used to make purchases?

hscmit · 12-29-2010, 01:55 PM

this has taken a turn for the entertaining

obviously very sorry for those effected by id theft/ false charges on cc's

jmsremax · 12-29-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hscmit

this has taken a turn for the entertaining

obviously very sorry for those effected by id theft/ false charges on cc's

I don't know why but anyways....I keep checking my accounts and so far so good **knock on wood** (I used play pal).

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Starz26

That is an oddity... Is there a way to find out the same for others? Curious to see if this goes even further. Glad I subscribe to transunion as well.....

And I will pass this along to others so they can be on the lookout

This is the greatest feeling at times like these.

Starz26 · 12-29-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueface

This is the greatest feeling at times like these.

Does the number you posted lock all three or just transunion. A little concerned about the SSN and DOB thing as Amex will tell me nothing about the case except what charge was made.

Starz26 · 12-29-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 14holestogie

Rather than trying to find some small part of everyone's post we can argue about, wouldn't we be better served to find and concentrate on the parts we can agree on?

A lot of people that bought this deal have had their credit compromised.

I have no problem with semantics when someone is trying to warn me my house is on fire.

Point taken.
I realize that what I was thinking (which agrees with what everyone else is saying) may not have come across in what I wrote even if that is how I read it currently, so again, it does not matter....

But the name calling was a little over the top....and it shows the true character of those involved.....

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Starz26

Does the number you posted lock all three or just transunion. A little concerned about the SSN and DOB thing as Amex will tell me nothing about the case except what charge was made.

The number I posted is for TransUnion, even if you don't have any monitoring with them.
Once you place the 90 day alert, they notify the two other bureaus.
It is a free service.

The Lock you see on that image is if you are a transunion subscriber, you can access your account and lock it, beyond the 90 day alert number I posted. It stays locked as long as you want to and you get an email if anyone attempts to pull your credit report or seek credit with your information.
Also, that lock applies to all three bureaus.

Both is the best most secure way to go.

Tell you what, at first, the thought of bogus charges on your card means little to me as has happened many times in my life and am protected from owing for them.
When I learned they had my social and dob for confirmation with the credit card company, that hit a whole new level and a much more serious one. Then again, just about everyone has that on me anyhow. Drs, Dentist, on and on and on. Just imaging how many can do this stuff on us.

hotreds · 12-29-2010, 03:33 PM

"I Just got a call from Amex Fraud. Nailed for $3,000 charge to Luftansa and a 40.00 charge to Air asia."

Damn, they're much cheaper in all areas, aren't they?!

This whole thinks sucks big time! Glad I used poopail, guess they DO serve a purpose after all!

bobarian · 12-29-2010, 03:41 PM

As Carlos and Mark have stated several times, credit card fraud occurs daily to millions of people who make purchases both online and at regular retailers, restaurants and other places of business. No one has lost anything here. The charges never appear on your statement as they are flagged by the CC company. Replacement cards can be sent overnight if requested. Every time this happens, the retailer is blamed because that is our first point of contact. But in reality the breach is somewhere else in the system of electronic transactions. I can think of at least two other occasions that this has happened on this board, each time the retailer was mercilessly bashed with no evidence they were the cause.

icehog3 · 12-29-2010, 04:33 PM

Just to clarify, I was not trying to cast any negativity of Carlos' original post about his compromise situation... I was just wondering if maybe his was different than the rest, as I hadn't seen any discussion of stolen Social Security numbers or the like by any of those previously compromised.

Two other things:

Bob makes a very valid point.

and

The namecalling is unnecessary in this or any thread, let's keep it on the topic and not personal, please.

Skywalker · 12-29-2010, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T.G

PS: Darrell, you're a doo-doo head!

Blueface · 12-29-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by icehog3

Just to clarify, I was not trying to cast any negativity of Carlos' original post about his compromise situation... I was just wondering if maybe his was different than the rest, as I hadn't seen any discussion of stolen Social Security numbers or the like by any of those previously compromised.

Can't wait to hopefully smack you in person later in January.

I have to go back on this thread. Can't imagine anyone taking what you said in a wrong way.

12-29-2010, 01:46 PM	#306
T.G Grrrrrr Join Date: Mar 2009 First Name: The Other Adam Posts: 15,559 Trading: (37)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 Who the frack cares where it happened? It makes no fracking difference. It's done. It's over. The numbers have been compromised. Nothing said here is going to change the past and likely have little to no bearing on any criminal investigation, if there even is one. All one can do at this point is inform the other (cigar) forums that there now appears that there is a possibility that SSNs and DOBs might also have been compromised. PS: Darrell, you're a doo-doo head!

12-29-2010, 01:48 PM	#308
14holestogie Serial banter killer Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tim Location: Clintonville, WI Posts: 4,341 Trading: (52)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 Rather than trying to find some small part of everyone's post we can argue about, wouldn't we be better served to find and concentrate on the parts we can agree on? A lot of people that bought this deal have had their credit compromised. I have no problem with semantics when someone is trying to warn me my house is on fire. __________________ *I loves me a Parti*

12-29-2010, 01:52 PM	#309
stewshi Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 407 Trading: (23)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 back to the more important parts of this thread .... has anyone else confirmed with their CC that their SS and DOB was used to make purchases?

12-29-2010, 01:55 PM	#310
hscmit Have My Own Room Join Date: Sep 2010 First Name: James Location: no where Posts: 2,200 Trading: (4)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 this has taken a turn for the entertaining obviously very sorry for those effected by id theft/ false charges on cc's

12-29-2010, 03:33 PM	#316
hotreds Ephesians 2:8 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5 miles past "Resume Speed" Posts: 11,670 Trading: (63)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 "I Just got a call from Amex Fraud. Nailed for $3,000 charge to Luftansa and a 40.00 charge to Air asia." Damn, they're much cheaper in all areas, aren't they?! This whole thinks sucks big time! Glad I used poopail, guess they DO serve a purpose after all! __________________ God loves you so much, that he made you read this, just to let you know.

12-29-2010, 03:41 PM	#317
bobarian Cranky Habanophile Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wine Country Posts: 8,869 Trading: (51)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 As Carlos and Mark have stated several times, credit card fraud occurs daily to millions of people who make purchases both online and at regular retailers, restaurants and other places of business. No one has lost anything here. The charges never appear on your statement as they are flagged by the CC company. Replacement cards can be sent overnight if requested. Every time this happens, the retailer is blamed because that is our first point of contact. But in reality the breach is somewhere else in the system of electronic transactions. I can think of at least two other occasions that this has happened on this board, each time the retailer was mercilessly bashed with no evidence they were the cause.

12-29-2010, 04:33 PM	#318
icehog3 Admiral Douchebag Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Tom Location: Clermont, Kentucky Posts: 71,650 Trading: (60)	Re: 12 Ronsons $17 until 8PM 12/9/10 Just to clarify, I was not trying to cast any negativity of Carlos' original post about his compromise situation... I was just wondering if maybe his was different than the rest, as I hadn't seen any discussion of stolen Social Security numbers or the like by any of those previously compromised. Two other things: Bob makes a very valid point. and The namecalling is unnecessary in this or any thread, let's keep it on the topic and not personal, please. __________________ Thanks Dave, Julian, James, Kelly, Peter, Gerry, Dave, Mo, Frank, Týr and Mr. Mark!