Two Maduros

BTcigars · 10-27-2010, 11:40 AM

I recently got to smoke two maduros at the same time and this was my experience with the La Traviata Maduro and Perdomo Patarich Maduro:

After purchasing the La Traviata, I took a seat and started smoking. I found myself in a engaging and humorous conversation with some fellow BOTL’s until I noticed that this cigar was not particularly good. Upon lighting the cigar, there was the typical harshness in taste. As I continued to smoke, that harshness did not fade away into something better. Instead, all I tasted was tobacco and bitterness. This tasted like a very young cigar.

I traded the cigar off to a different hand when I noticed that my fingers were brown. Brown! I was disgusted by this. Not because it affects the taste, but rather it seems dishonest to dye a wrapper to give it the appearance of something of higher quality. A gentleman told me that dark espresso and glycerin is used to give these cigars the appearance of being dark and oily with a deep coffee smell. After feeling the wrapper upon his request, I found it to be slightly rough and nothing like it’s oily appearance.

This gentleman then asked me if I had ever smoked two cigars at once, to which I replied that I hadn’t. He then treated me to a Perdomo Patriarch Maduro. The wrapper on this cigar was dark, almost black, and very smooth, almost flawless.

The cigar had been lit and the first few puffs were a far cry from the La Traviata. Even though it still had that initial harshness, it was noticable smoother than the La Traviata. The smoke was abundant and creamy and the construction of the cigar looked and felt excellent.

The La Traviata remained the same in taste and after a certain point became a chore to smoke, so I retired it to the ashtray. I continued on smoking the Perdomo and was very pleased with how things were going with this cigar. I thought that the flavor profile was more or less one dimensional but it wasn’t a problem since it tasted good! Unfortunately in the last third of this cigar, the good taste had faded and the smoke was becoming hot. I had my fill of the cigar and I put in down in the ashtray.

In conclusion, I will buy the Perdomo again but I doubt I will try the La Traviata again. There are just too many good cigars out there to try and why bother with something that isn’t likely to improve, even with age.

La Traviata Maduro: 2 out of 5 – Poor

Perdomo Patriarch Maduro: 4 out of 5 – Excellent

My full review is here.

warren G. · 10-27-2010, 12:14 PM

Holy cow, I wasn't expecting a bad review from that La Traviata. When my B&M got a shipment of them. It was selling like hot cakes. The owner gave our group (6 people) one to try out. After we smoke it, the guys bought a 10er, box and I personally bought a 5er. I have about 5 sitting in my humidor now. I'ma revisit it after reading this review. It wasn't no means a bad cigar. I really hope you just had a fluky one.

BTcigars · 10-27-2010, 02:25 PM

I was definitely expecting more for the La Traviata but it just didnt deliver at all. One of the guys I was smoking with said how a CAO rep told him to let a La Traviata sit for about 6 months and then it should be good to smoke. If the cigar still needs 6 months then it should be in the aging rooms and not in shops. I might try one again eventually.

What watch is that for your avatar!?

kelmac07 · 10-27-2010, 03:10 PM

Thanks for sharing...may have to try the two stick thing. And I am with you on the La Traviata Maduro...didn't care for it at all.

10-27-2010, 03:32 PM

This is the first time I have heard anybody claim that the La Traviata Maduro was dyed. I have smoked many of the reg line La Traviata and about 4 of the Maduro, and while I like the reg line better I did not have any color come off on my fingers when smoking the Maduro. Since you took pictures of the cigars I would have liked to see a pic of your brown fingers.

TheDudeAbides · 10-27-2010, 05:06 PM

This is surprising. A buddy of mine brought me a La Trav maduro back from the trade show, and it was fantastic, especially at that pricepoint. I've got a couple more, that I've bought post-release, in the humi. I really hope they don't suck.
-Dude

dannysguitar · 10-27-2010, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

This is the first time I have heard anybody claim that the La Traviata Maduro was dyed. I have smoked many of the reg line La Traviata and about 4 of the Maduro, and while I like the reg line better I did not have any color come off on my fingers when smoking the Maduro. Since you took pictures of the cigars I would have liked to see a pic of your brown fingers.

warren G. · 10-27-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BTcigars

I was definitely expecting more for the La Traviata but it just didnt deliver at all. One of the guys I was smoking with said how a CAO rep told him to let a La Traviata sit for about 6 months and then it should be good to smoke. If the cigar still needs 6 months then it should be in the aging rooms and not in shops. I might try one again eventually.

What watch is that for your avatar!?

it's the Patek Philippe 240 movement.
My grail(lottery) watch would be 5140 perpetual calendar. Soooo pretty ;D
Some borrow pics :

jdakine · 10-27-2010, 06:55 PM

Now that is a time pieces

BTcigars · 10-28-2010, 10:18 AM

Absolutely beautiful timepiece

BTcigars · 10-28-2010, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

This is the first time I have heard anybody claim that the La Traviata Maduro was dyed. I have smoked many of the reg line La Traviata and about 4 of the Maduro, and while I like the reg line better I did not have any color come off on my fingers when smoking the Maduro. Since you took pictures of the cigars I would have liked to see a pic of your brown fingers.

Its hard to tell from the lighting but in the first pic you can see my middle and ring fingertips are still slightly discolored even after using a paper towel to wipe them down.

Goldie · 10-28-2010, 02:03 PM

The La Traviata is just about the only CAO that I enjoy, so I really should head out and grab one at some point.

10-28-2010, 02:21 PM

Yeah its hard to see anything in the pic. I asked Jon Huber CAO Director of Lifestyle Marketing about it yesterday, of course he denied it. I have some in my humidor, I never noticed anything about them before but will pay closer attention next time I smoke one.

BTcigars · 10-28-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

Yeah its hard to see anything in the pic. I asked Jon Huber CAO Director of Lifestyle Marketing about it yesterday, of course he denied it. I have some in my humidor, I never noticed anything about them before but will pay closer attention next time I smoke one.

Just so you know, I really am not making this up. I was with 4 other guys in our smoking area when I brough it up and showed it to them. I went into the back of the shop and I got some paper towels to wipe my hands off with and when I came back thats when one of the guys gave me the Perdomo to try.

10-28-2010, 02:48 PM

In no way am I saying I don't believe you. I have had even non maduro cigars have color come off of them. I just didn't notice it on the four I smoked and now you have peak my interest LOL.

dwoodward · 10-28-2010, 02:56 PM

I love the Perdomo Patriarch. Glad you liked it too.

BTcigars · 10-28-2010, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

In no way am I saying I don't believe you. I have had even non maduro cigars have color come off of them. I just didn't notice it on the four I smoked and now you have peak my interest LOL.

I had a Gran Habano last Fri (Corojo #5 lancero) and boy was I surprised when that thing turned my fingers brown! I would not expect a corojo to be dyed. Is it time for a revolution to stop makers from dying their cigars?!

10-27-2010, 11:40 AM	#1
BTcigars Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 486 Trading: (1)	Two Maduros I recently got to smoke two maduros at the same time and this was my experience with the La Traviata Maduro and Perdomo Patarich Maduro: After purchasing the La Traviata, I took a seat and started smoking. I found myself in a engaging and humorous conversation with some fellow BOTL’s until I noticed that this cigar was not particularly good. Upon lighting the cigar, there was the typical harshness in taste. As I continued to smoke, that harshness did not fade away into something better. Instead, all I tasted was tobacco and bitterness. This tasted like a very young cigar. I traded the cigar off to a different hand when I noticed that my fingers were brown. Brown! I was disgusted by this. Not because it affects the taste, but rather it seems dishonest to dye a wrapper to give it the appearance of something of higher quality. A gentleman told me that dark espresso and glycerin is used to give these cigars the appearance of being dark and oily with a deep coffee smell. After feeling the wrapper upon his request, I found it to be slightly rough and nothing like it’s oily appearance. This gentleman then asked me if I had ever smoked two cigars at once, to which I replied that I hadn’t. He then treated me to a Perdomo Patriarch Maduro. The wrapper on this cigar was dark, almost black, and very smooth, almost flawless. The cigar had been lit and the first few puffs were a far cry from the La Traviata. Even though it still had that initial harshness, it was noticable smoother than the La Traviata. The smoke was abundant and creamy and the construction of the cigar looked and felt excellent. The La Traviata remained the same in taste and after a certain point became a chore to smoke, so I retired it to the ashtray. I continued on smoking the Perdomo and was very pleased with how things were going with this cigar. I thought that the flavor profile was more or less one dimensional but it wasn’t a problem since it tasted good! Unfortunately in the last third of this cigar, the good taste had faded and the smoke was becoming hot. I had my fill of the cigar and I put in down in the ashtray. In conclusion, I will buy the Perdomo again but I doubt I will try the La Traviata again. There are just too many good cigars out there to try and why bother with something that isn’t likely to improve, even with age. La Traviata Maduro: 2 out of 5 – Poor Perdomo Patriarch Maduro: 4 out of 5 – Excellent My full review is here. __________________ Be sure to chek out my blog.

10-27-2010, 12:14 PM	#2
warren G. Also a WIS. Join Date: Jun 2010 First Name: Duy Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 209 Trading: (2)	Re: Two Maduros Holy cow, I wasn't expecting a bad review from that La Traviata. When my B&M got a shipment of them. It was selling like hot cakes. The owner gave our group (6 people) one to try out. After we smoke it, the guys bought a 10er, box and I personally bought a 5er. I have about 5 sitting in my humidor now. I'ma revisit it after reading this review. It wasn't no means a bad cigar. I really hope you just had a fluky one. __________________ "After a truly good meal, an outstanding cigar is still the most satisfying after-dinner activity that doesn't involve two human beings."

10-27-2010, 02:25 PM	#3
BTcigars Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 486 Trading: (1)	Re: Two Maduros I was definitely expecting more for the La Traviata but it just didnt deliver at all. One of the guys I was smoking with said how a CAO rep told him to let a La Traviata sit for about 6 months and then it should be good to smoke. If the cigar still needs 6 months then it should be in the aging rooms and not in shops. I might try one again eventually. What watch is that for your avatar!? __________________ Be sure to chek out my blog.

10-27-2010, 03:10 PM	#4
kelmac07 Resident Maduro Whore!! Join Date: Apr 2009 First Name: Mac Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 27,322 Trading: (218)	Re: Two Maduros Thanks for sharing...may have to try the two stick thing. And I am with you on the La Traviata Maduro...didn't care for it at all. __________________ Dom in the MLB thread "I could probably get you to wear a Yankee hat for a Maduro!"

10-27-2010, 05:06 PM	#6
TheDudeAbides I got an awesome sound... Join Date: Aug 2010 First Name: Curtis Location: Silverton Posts: 208 Trading: (27)	Re: Two Maduros This is surprising. A buddy of mine brought me a La Trav maduro back from the trade show, and it was fantastic, especially at that pricepoint. I've got a couple more, that I've bought post-release, in the humi. I really hope they don't suck. -Dude __________________ Vegetarians are cool. All I eat are vegetarians - except for the occasional mountain lion steak. -Uncle Ted Last edited by TheDudeAbides; 10-27-2010 at 05:09 PM. Reason: clarification

10-27-2010, 03:32 PM	#5
tx_tuff Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Two Maduros This is the first time I have heard anybody claim that the La Traviata Maduro was dyed. I have smoked many of the reg line La Traviata and about 4 of the Maduro, and while I like the reg line better I did not have any color come off on my fingers when smoking the Maduro. Since you took pictures of the cigars I would have liked to see a pic of your brown fingers.

10-27-2010, 06:55 PM	#9
jdakine Sawadee Join Date: Sep 2009 First Name: Jay Location: Republic of Maui Posts: 2,481 Trading: (34)	Re: Two Maduros Now that is a time pieces __________________ Live your life to the fullist and smoke your favorate cigars

10-28-2010, 10:18 AM	#10
BTcigars Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 486 Trading: (1)	Re: Two Maduros Absolutely beautiful timepiece __________________ Be sure to chek out my blog.

10-28-2010, 02:03 PM	#12
Goldie Bring the pain! Join Date: Jan 2010 First Name: Drew Location: Ohio Posts: 808 Trading: (13)	Re: Two Maduros The La Traviata is just about the only CAO that I enjoy, so I really should head out and grab one at some point. __________________ Come in here dear boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go far - Pink Floyd I like my draw, like I like my women, a little loose - Goldie

10-28-2010, 02:21 PM	#13
tx_tuff Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Two Maduros Yeah its hard to see anything in the pic. I asked Jon Huber CAO Director of Lifestyle Marketing about it yesterday, of course he denied it. I have some in my humidor, I never noticed anything about them before but will pay closer attention next time I smoke one.

10-28-2010, 02:48 PM	#15
tx_tuff Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Two Maduros In no way am I saying I don't believe you. I have had even non maduro cigars have color come off of them. I just didn't notice it on the four I smoked and now you have peak my interest LOL.

10-28-2010, 02:56 PM	#16
dwoodward Gentlemen, you may smoke! Join Date: Jul 2010 First Name: Derrick Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,868 Trading: (26)	Re: Two Maduros I love the Perdomo Patriarch. Glad you liked it too.