The 5 stick problem

this is a quote from a series of e-mails between Mitchell and myself. "As far as I can tell from your rather awful photography skills (!) the cigars look authentic."

Jeff sells a multitude of Pre-embargo cigars which he must prove to the US GOVERNMENT their provenAnce. Maybe you can check his credentials with the BATF?

[LooseCard]

Okay, back on topic....

Originally Posted by RevSmoke

OK, the problem is your limitations.

I go to a pastor's conference for 4 days - will probably be able to smoke 3 cigars - so I bring a dozen.

I'd have to agree. I go to the Local hangout to smoke a couple, and bring 5 or 6 in a ziplock baggie.


Otherwise, I'd have to go to storage and select 5 random sticks.
Every smoke is special, and so is day I enjoy it.



Shortly after an online-friend died, I decided to never 'save it' for a special occasion. That day may not come before I go.

Originally Posted by Robert Mabona

this is a quote from a series of e-mails between Mitchell and myself. "As far as I can tell from your rather awful photography skills (!) the cigars look authentic."

Jeff sells a multitude of Pre-embargo cigars which he must prove to the US GOVERNMENT their provenAnce. Maybe you can check his credentials with the BATF?

If I scroll up it appears that Mitchell himself believes the two of you had a completely different conversation.

Jeff can buy his preembargos at a Christies auction or from Mo. Both would provide you everything needed to prove you had pre-embargo cigars. Using either source does not make you an expert. In fact I'd say that if its not a case (as with Mo) that you recall one thing and he recalls another the fact that Mo, a well recognized expert believes the box not to be legitamate may be a clear indicator of Jeff's lack of expertise.

Also did a flip through of the MRN and no mention of them there.

Hope they didnt set up back to much more than the NCs they might be.

[jkim05]

Originally Posted by Robert Mabona

this is a quote from a series of e-mails between Mitchell and myself. "As far as I can tell from your rather awful photography skills (!) the cigars look authentic."

Jeff sells a multitude of Pre-embargo cigars which he must prove to the US GOVERNMENT their provenAnce. Maybe you can check his credentials with the BATF?

Well, at this point it doesn't matter what Mitchell said before since he came to this thread and stated his opinion clearly. He didn't say whether the cigars looked authentic or not, he stated that any box of Davidoff's that says "clube" on it is definitely fake. Are you suggesting he's changing his opinion based on the statements of others here? Why are you questioning his credibility if you wanted to use him as a reference to validate your cigars in the first place? Nobody is calling you a liar here, they are just pointing out facts that are not adding up.

Also, Davidoff is a post-embargo brand established in 1969, so no US vendor would be doing any sales of Cuban Davidoffs, therefore to suggest that they are familiar with those cigars based on sales of pre-embargo cigars is moot. We're not questioning your honesty nor that of whoever you got the cigars from, but unless you can demonstrate to us provenance and where they originated from, at this point the cigars look dubious at best.