CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please

macms · 01-17-2009, 01:50 PM

I'm asking for feedback regarding this idea to provide emergency assistance to our brothers in need. In the coming weeks/months some of our brothers may experience hardship. There is a principle that says, you must give it away to keep it. In this spirit I hope that this idea will provide us the opportunity to practice this.

Gifts could be cash or pre-paid gift cards for grocery stores, etc. or direct payments for utilities, etc.

The committee members alluded to have been selected and will remain anonymous for the time being.

Thank you for reading this and providing your feedback. After reviewing your feedback and in consultation with our moderators, a decision will be made if will we proceed with it.

CA Emergency Fund

The purpose of this fund is to provide a one time monetary gift to our unemployed brothers in need who are nominated by a member in good standing of CA.

How to nominate a brother

The candidate must be unemployed a minimum of 45 days.
All nominations and awards will remain anonymous.
If the decision is made to award a gift to a nominee they will be contacted directly by the committee.
The person nominated will never know they were nominated if a gift is not awarded.
The committee will never disclose who nominated a recipient.
The person nominating a candidate will never know if a gift was granted.

NOMINATE A BROTHER HERE

Governance

A committee comprised of members of CA will administer this fund.

The committee will provide an accounting of donations and distributions for our members here.
The committee will determine all recipients of the relief funds and the amount of the gift.
Committee members and their families are not eligible to participate.

PLEASE DONATE HERE

You may donate a minimum of $1.00 up to any amount you wish at any time to this fund.
This is an informal effort therefore your donation is NOT tax deductible.

massphatness · 01-17-2009, 02:07 PM

Love the concept, Fred.

Question: what if one of our brothers or sisters is in need for a reason other than job loss? What if he or she is having a hard time because a spouse is unemployed or there's a child in the house with an illness, etc.? Can they be nominated?

I apologize if I'm muddying the waters.

macms · 01-17-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by massphatness

Love the concept, Fred.

Question: what if one of our brothers or sisters is in need for a reason other than job loss? What if he or she is having a hard time because a spouse is unemployed or there's a child in the house with an illness, etc.? Can they be nominated?

I apologize if I'm muddying the waters.

This is the kind of feedback that's very helpful. Will consider this as well. Thanks.

01-17-2009, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massphatness

Love the concept, Fred.

Question: what if one of our brothers or sisters is in need for a reason other than job loss? What if he or she is having a hard time because a spouse is unemployed or there's a child in the house with an illness, etc.? Can they be nominated?

I apologize if I'm muddying the waters.

I am all for this, I like the idea of broader nomination as well.

01-17-2009, 04:10 PM

Absolutely great idea.

I'm on board!!

bvilchez · 01-17-2009, 02:12 PM

Fred I love the idea!!!!

I was once told that one man's dollar is another man's hundred dollars.

DPD6030 · 01-17-2009, 02:25 PM

I agree and love the idea. Might as well be CAMS (cigar asylum member supporters)! The donate link isn't working for me.

macms · 01-17-2009, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPD6030

I agree and love the idea. Might as well be CAMS (cigar asylum member supporters)! The donate link isn't working for me.

I like CAMS!

chippewastud79 · 01-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Fred, its a great idea.

A question, how will it be determined the amount of the gift and what type of gift will be given (gift card, bill payment, etc.)?

A statement, not that I am one to judge, I do believe the people here are good, honest people, but similar to giving money to a random person or charity and not knowing whether they are buying something they need (food, clothes) or a luxury item (booze, or something else). I have experienced this misappropriation of funds in my own life when trying to help out a family member and it feels like you have been cheated.

macms · 01-17-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chippewastud79

Fred, its a great idea.

A question, how will it be determined the amount of the gift and what type of gift will be given (gift card, bill payment, etc.)?

Excellent question. I'm thinking the committee will make this decision based upon the details of the request (nomination) and communication with the nominee. There can be no hard and fast "rules" as each situation will be unique. The committee will make a good faith effort to address the need of the recipient and the good will of our members.

SmokeyJoe · 01-17-2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macms

I like CAMS!

Or how about:

Hardship Emergency Relief Fund H.E.R.F. !

Great idea, Fred. You are a good-hearted man.

Cenookie · 01-17-2009, 10:21 PM

Great idea, count me in!!!

bvilchez · 01-17-2009, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPD6030

The donate link isn't working for me.

Me neither......

macms · 01-17-2009, 03:21 PM

The links are not functional at the moment. This thread is only to discuss the feasibility of this idea. If the decision is made to move forward then a new thread with a functional post will be provided. Thanks

bvilchez · 01-17-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macms

The links are not functional at the moment. This thread is only to discuss the feasibility of this idea. If the decision is made to move forward then a new thread with a functional post will be provided. Thanks

Good to go.....well you can DEFINITELY count me in....we're family on here....

shilala · 01-17-2009, 02:34 PM

I think it's a very worthwhile idea, Fred. You're a genius.

G G · 01-17-2009, 02:37 PM

Sounds like a winner to me.

68TriShield · 01-17-2009, 02:45 PM

I'll get on board Fred. I'd like to see the member in question kept anonymous if its desired.
Good idea Sir

loki · 01-17-2009, 02:39 PM

that's a freaking awesome idea, i love it

Mikepd · 01-17-2009, 02:43 PM

This is why we as a community stand apart from other groups. I'm all for it and am proud to call you guys my family!

01-17-2009, 01:50 PM	#1
macms ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mile High Posts: 996 Trading: (56)	CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please I'm asking for feedback regarding this idea to provide emergency assistance to our brothers in need. In the coming weeks/months some of our brothers may experience hardship. There is a principle that says, you must give it away to keep it. In this spirit I hope that this idea will provide us the opportunity to practice this. Gifts could be cash or pre-paid gift cards for grocery stores, etc. or direct payments for utilities, etc. The committee members alluded to have been selected and will remain anonymous for the time being. Thank you for reading this and providing your feedback. After reviewing your feedback and in consultation with our moderators, a decision will be made if will we proceed with it. CA Emergency Fund The purpose of this fund is to provide a one time monetary gift to our unemployed brothers in need who are nominated by a member in good standing of CA. How to nominate a brother The candidate must be unemployed a minimum of 45 days. All nominations and awards will remain anonymous. If the decision is made to award a gift to a nominee they will be contacted directly by the committee. The person nominated will never know they were nominated if a gift is not awarded. The committee will never disclose who nominated a recipient. The person nominating a candidate will never know if a gift was granted. NOMINATE A BROTHER HERE Governance A committee comprised of members of CA will administer this fund. The committee will provide an accounting of donations and distributions for our members here. The committee will determine all recipients of the relief funds and the amount of the gift. Committee members and their families are not eligible to participate. PLEASE DONATE HERE You may donate a minimum of $1.00 up to any amount you wish at any time to this fund. This is an informal effort therefore your donation is NOT tax deductible.

01-17-2009, 02:07 PM	#2
massphatness Where's my buffaloooo ... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Vin Location: MassHolia Posts: 12,690 Trading: (206)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Love the concept, Fred. Question: what if one of our brothers or sisters is in need for a reason other than job loss? What if he or she is having a hard time because a spouse is unemployed or there's a child in the house with an illness, etc.? Can they be nominated? I apologize if I'm muddying the waters. __________________ *Help Support The Navy SEAL Foundation: HERE*

01-17-2009, 04:10 PM	#5
tobii3 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Absolutely great idea. I'm on board!!

01-17-2009, 02:12 PM	#6
bvilchez En búsqueda..... Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Bolivar aka Jay Location: Back in SoCal Posts: 3,202 Trading: (76)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Fred I love the idea!!!! I was once told that one man's dollar is another man's hundred dollars.

01-17-2009, 02:25 PM	#7
DPD6030 Shepard of the sheeple Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Andrew Location: The Mitten Posts: 7,166 Trading: (151)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please I agree and love the idea. Might as well be CAMS (cigar asylum member supporters)! The donate link isn't working for me.

01-17-2009, 02:43 PM	#9
chippewastud79 Fatter than you! Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Larry Location: A little place called home. Posts: 5,397 Trading: (44)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Fred, its a great idea. A question, how will it be determined the amount of the gift and what type of gift will be given (gift card, bill payment, etc.)? A statement, not that I am one to judge, I do believe the people here are good, honest people, but similar to giving money to a random person or charity and not knowing whether they are buying something they need (food, clothes) or a luxury item (booze, or something else). I have experienced this misappropriation of funds in my own life when trying to help out a family member and it feels like you have been cheated. __________________ If we weren't supposed to eat animals, then how come they're made of meat? You can never have too many cigars, they are like an investment in good times.

01-17-2009, 10:21 PM	#12
Cenookie Adjusting to the Life Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Claude Location: So. Calif. Posts: 292 Trading: (1)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Great idea, count me in!!!

01-17-2009, 03:21 PM	#14
macms ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mile High Posts: 996 Trading: (56)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please The links are not functional at the moment. This thread is only to discuss the feasibility of this idea. If the decision is made to move forward then a new thread with a functional post will be provided. Thanks __________________

01-17-2009, 02:34 PM	#16
shilala Dear Lord, Thank You. Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Scott Posts: 13,721 Trading: (252)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please I think it's a very worthwhile idea, Fred. You're a genius. __________________

01-17-2009, 02:37 PM	#17
G G BR549 Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Greg Location: Taylor, FL. Posts: 12,730 Trading: (10)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please Sounds like a winner to me.

01-17-2009, 02:45 PM	#18
68TriShield Got Torque? Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Dave Location: Maryland Posts: 7,194 Trading: (40)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please I'll get on board Fred. I'd like to see the member in question kept anonymous if its desired. Good idea Sir

01-17-2009, 02:39 PM	#19
loki H.A.T.E Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,484 Trading: (7)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please that's a freaking awesome idea, i love it

01-17-2009, 02:43 PM	#20
Mikepd I Miss Pnoon Join Date: Oct 2008 First Name: Michael Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 580 Trading: (10)	Re: CA Emergency Fund - Feedback please This is why we as a community stand apart from other groups. I'm all for it and am proud to call you guys my family!